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re: LA Higher Ed is Discriminating Against Whites and Asians Students

Posted on 9/21/25 at 4:27 pm to
Posted by lsugal432
Member since Feb 2025
26 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 4:27 pm to
LSU has a 74% acceptance rate today. It’s up from less than 70% pre-Covid. Class of 2025 has some of the highest GPAs and ACT scores. Plus you can’t get TOPS or any other scholarship when opting “test exempt”.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
5520 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 4:42 pm to
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GPA was really good though


It's been known for a long time that getting a 4.0 at some schools is way less impressive than a 2.0 in others.

That also goes to colleges HBCU degrees in STEM arent worth the paper they are printed on.

They see it as a mission to pump out degrees knowing they can bully tech companies into taking few of their uneducated graduates, and thus raise the average income of African Americans.

Howard and Spelman are decent colleges (I do mean decent, lower Tier State School decent, which is still good).

The rest are running a scam.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
5537 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 4:56 pm to
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Lots of states are doing this but there is a GPA requirement.

think a 4.0 at an inner school is better than a 3.0 at a private school?

Tests weed out the bad.
Posted by NoLaMom4
Member since Jul 2025
5 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 5:07 pm to
When you’re coming from out of state, you don’t get TOPS.

Those numbers are skyrocketing
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
18975 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 5:19 pm to
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Did you know LSU has adopted a “test-optional” policy?

The same printing presses that crank out cash 24/7 for the Fed can also print diplomas, embroidered toilet paper too.
Posted by MardiGrasMike
Member since Jun 2025
80 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 5:23 pm to
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Plus you can’t get TOPS or any other scholarship when opting “test exempt”.


That’s why there’s been a flood of OOS students who don’t submit ACT scores in order to achieve the objective mentioned in Koenig’s article.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
12945 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 5:28 pm to
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given the state of schools in this country


But remember, the states have responsibility for lower education, as multiple land grant acts from the 1800s have made clear. Even counties full of rich "smart" people produce school districts that let kids re-take tests (max score of 70 in mine,) and permit helicopter parents to run roughshod demanding higher grades, including invoking disability for kids that already have multiple minders, tutoring sessions, etc.

Parents largely did this by thinking the way to get their kids to reed mor gud was to throw more money at schools, whinge for better grades for their kids, and refuse to take any accountability that their kid can't even use safety scissors by the time they hit kinder.
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
20395 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 5:31 pm to
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family has been deeply scarred by this injustice not once, but twice.


No need to exaggerate, people get denied from colleges all the time.

Posted by Vidic
Member since Jan 2010
9482 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 5:32 pm to
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I have a child who was denied admission into LSU although he/she met all requirements including the ACT score.


At least make your lie believable
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
9553 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 5:59 pm to
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Even counties full of rich "smart" people produce school districts that let kids re-take tests (m


Oh trust me, I definitely meant the state of education across the board at all schools. I'm a high school science teacher (primarily advanced and regular anatomy classes ATM, but I've taught almost every high school science outside of chemistry and upper level physics) and I've seen it all from my dual enrollment classes to regular classes. Depending on the district there is all kinds of BS to pressure teachers into grade inflation. It's one of the main reasons I left my last district after 9 years a few years ago, I wasn't putting up with that nonsense.

And that's why we need standardized tests like ACT and SAT to weed out those students that were gifted grades.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
12945 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 7:17 pm to
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standardized tests like ACT and SAT to weed out those students that were gifted grades.


Standardized testing, in my view, developed because the NEA and the AFT fought tooth and nail against any other measurement of teacher efficacy for decades. The state educational governmental body (I know you know this, this is for others) generally establishes a curriculum, with required hours of learning, topics to be covered, etc. This was necessary because of teachers going rogue (or, dare I say, squishy emotional female teachers in non science subjects) and bending the lesson plans to their personal whims.

Then, for instance, Texas establishes a statewide (non annual) test, like TAKS, to measure learning against state standards. Yes, you're teaching to the test, because that's what your elected representatives decided upon. It keeps 7th grade teachers from waxing poetic about how there really is a third eye chakra which can influence chemical reactions based on how one feels that day, and the alignment of Jupiter.

The NEA/AFT talking points (smaller classes, etc) were endemic in the 80s, and they get worse now with more anxious parents. I was in Department of Defense schools (as were my sisters) for most of my life, and our per student funding was about 30% of what it as in the average state (outliers like AR and MS excluded from that time period). Nearly all of us went to college, because if you were a student delinquent, your mom or dad's CO got a report with your kid's name on it, and you'd get a proper Boomer talking to, including threats of being sent back to the United States if you didn't help your kid get their shite together. Your parents gave a shite (but not helicopter parent), and you tended to be successful, because they had a vested interest in you not being a useless student.

Shocking take, I know.
Posted by Portballs
Member since Jun 2025
199 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 7:18 pm to
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OP is absolutely lying if the premise is that his kid can't get into a college in Louisiana.

And you're so frickin stupid that you can't discern that the OP is obviously a "MOM"
Posted by CSinLC
Member since May 2018
2048 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 7:37 pm to
As a seasoned citizen, one reason I socialize very little these days is because people are generally rude, self-centered, disrespectful, inconsiderate and aggressive.

Other than that I love being around people
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
9355 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 7:58 pm to
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LSU has a 74% acceptance rate today. It’s up from less than 70% pre-Covid. Class of 2025 has some of the highest GPAs and ACT scores. Plus you can’t get TOPS or any other scholarship when opting “test exempt”.


It is “weighted” GPAs.

Also, only 47% of the first time college enrollees at LSU for the fall of 2024 submitted an ACT or SAT score. You are pushing an accolade that doesn’t even cover a majority of the incoming freshman.

You are also wrong about scholarships or at least incorrectly making a blanket statement about scholarships.
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Applicants will have the choice to select if they wish to have their ACT or SAT scores considered when we review their application for admission and university-administered scholarships.

… Scholarships will continue to be reviewed in a holistic way, similar to the admissions evaluation. If a student chooses not to submit a test score as a part of this process, their application will still be reviewed for university-administered scholarships. Generally, students who fall in the top half of LSU’s applicant pool have historically qualified for scholarships.

Students applying for the LSU Ogden Honors College who elect to be test optional will be considered for admission and scholarships, including Stamps.


https://www.lsu.edu/admissions/apply/test-optional-faq.php This link also includes quotes below.

LSU even recommends you submit scores at or above - 27 (ACT) or 1240 (SAT).
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…the average test score is 27 (ACT) or 1240 (SAT). If a student’s super score falls at or above these averages, it is generally seen that their test score could benefit their application.

If a student’s GPA is at or above the LSU average, but test scores are not, it is recommended they apply test optional, waiving the test score requirement.


As for TOPs you can submit ACT/SAT scores for TOPs and still choose to be test optional for LSU admissions and scholarships.

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TOPS (Taylor Opportunity Program for Students) is a state scholarship program for Louisiana residents. It is administered by the Louisiana Office of Student Financial Assistance (LOSFA), a program of the Board of Regents, and is separate from LSU.

According to LOSFA, test scores are required to be reported to LOSFA for TOPS scholarship funding.

A student’s decision to be test optional at LSU does not remove their test scores from TOPS consideration, nor does it impact their ability to receive TOPS.
This post was edited on 9/21/25 at 7:59 pm
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
66352 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 8:32 pm to
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Highly qualified Louisiana students are being unjustly denied opportunities solely because of their race—a clear betrayal of fairness and merit.

Since it’s Louisiana doing the denying, are you certain they’re not doing these kids they’re not accepting a favor?
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
12945 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 8:35 pm to
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27 (ACT) or 1240 (SAT)

Flagship university, folks. And that's the new SAT scoring, not what Gen X (and I presume another gen after did).
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
9355 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 8:40 pm to
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When you’re coming from out of state, you don’t get TOPS.

Those numbers are skyrocketing


This is correct for out of state enrollees, out of state accepted, and out of state applicants.

Fall 2024 freshman (1st time, 1st year and not transfers or returning students still classified as freshmen due to # of credits)
Total.
Applied 47,065
Accepted 34,513
Enrolled 7,925

In State
Applied 11,135
Accepted 8,923
Enrolled 4,721

Out of State
Applied 34,357
Accepted 24,838
Enrolled 3,124

. International
Applied 1,573
Accepted 752
Enrolled 80
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
12945 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 8:46 pm to
For the geniuses in the audience, almost anyone that wants to go to LSU, can. They choose not to.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
119935 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 9:08 pm to
The public system (well its at least one school, don't know about the others) where I live switched to a letter grade system. I am not exactly sure how it works, but I know that an A is an A.. One student can have a 99% A and the other one can have a 91% A, but as for as the way it works everyone's A is equal. And a kid can't score less than 50% on an exam. I don't know how that works since they don't do percentage points for grades, but someone can submit a blank test and the lowest they get is 50%.

You pretty much have to be an idiot or don't care at all to fail.

I think its designed to not keep the same kids from being held back. If they are not going to college, just push them out the door.

If public school in La is your only option, you could have chatGPT create lesson plans for every subject they take in school, follow that and they will probably learn more than they would in public school.
Posted by lsugal432
Member since Feb 2025
26 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 9:13 pm to
Exactly. Only Louisiana’s dumbest of the dumb don’t get accepted in LSU right now. They took over 8k in the freshman class.
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