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LA Gator program
Posted on 1/14/25 at 6:36 pm
Posted on 1/14/25 at 6:36 pm
What is the deal with this?
We got an email from the dean of my daughter's school saying they are going to participate in the LA Gator program beginning next year.
I understand this is supposed to be a school choice legislation.
To me, it looks like a bunch people are going to be able to start going to her private school for free, while I get to still pay full price.
We got an email from the dean of my daughter's school saying they are going to participate in the LA Gator program beginning next year.
I understand this is supposed to be a school choice legislation.
To me, it looks like a bunch people are going to be able to start going to her private school for free, while I get to still pay full price.
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 6:39 pm to GEAUXT
Look on the bright side… more sports championships?
Posted on 1/14/25 at 6:41 pm to GEAUXT
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To me, it looks like a bunch people are going to be able to start going to her private school for free, while I get to still pay full price.
In phase 3, 3 years from now there are no income limits. I fully expect this shite bird state to mess it up and add income limits but in the original bill it’s open to everyone after phase 3.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 6:42 pm to GEAUXT
In a nutshell it provides funds (assuming it gets funding) to people up to 250% of the poverty line - that’s about $80k or $90k or so depending on number of kids. I don’t know if it’s a phase out or a straight up ineligible after that threshold. For private schools it will increase the applicant pool potentially but schools aren’t required to change admission standards. I asked this question at new parent orientation at my kids school so a bunch ghetto children don’t start going there because they got some free money. For some of the folks at private schools who maybe have had legitimately hard times it might help with delinquencies on tuition.
This post was edited on 1/14/25 at 6:45 pm
Posted on 1/14/25 at 6:46 pm to JumpingTheShark
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In a nutshell it provides funds (assuming it gets funding) to people up to 250% of the poverty line - that’s about $80k or $90k or so depending on number of kids. I don’t know if it’s a phase out or a straight up ineligible after that threshold. For private schools it will increase the applicant pool potentially but schools aren’t required to change admission standards. I asked this question at new parent orientation at my kids school so a bunch ghetto children don’t start going there because they got some free money.
This is my concern, and exactly what I expect to hapen.
It is in very poor taste because the school just emailed like a week ago saying why they had to raise tuition for next year.
It's a shame, because we have been extremely happy with the school and my son would he starting next year. No way in hell I am going to pay that kind of money when they would effectively just be in a public school.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 6:50 pm to GEAUXT
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It's a shame, because we have been extremely happy with the school and my son would he starting next year. No way in hell I am going to pay that kind of money when they would effectively just be in a public school.
What is their motivation to accept new kids that they wouldn’t otherwise accept due to this new program? There is none. I would expect that all “good” schools keep their same admissions process, otherwise people will leave. Also, the scholarship isn’t enough to cover 100% of cost at most good schools anyway, poors aren’t coming out of pocket 1k.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 6:52 pm to Epic Cajun
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the scholarship isn’t enough to cover 100% of cost at most good schools anyway
Bingo, I want to say maybe funds of $5,400 or so was mentioned per kid? That’s a third of the cost at most halfway decent schools and a fraction of the really good schools
Edit: I was off on my numbers somewhat but I was going from memory. Here is the link to the program rules: LINK
This post was edited on 1/14/25 at 7:03 pm
Posted on 1/14/25 at 6:53 pm to Epic Cajun
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What is their motivation to accept new kids that they wouldn’t otherwise accept due to this new program?
$$$$
I can guarantee there is additional benefit to the school beyond the state just cutting families a check to help them out
Posted on 1/14/25 at 6:56 pm to Epic Cajun
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What is their motivation to accept new kids that they wouldn’t otherwise accept due to this new program?
More money in the bank, duh. Are you being serious?
Why would anyone support this?
This post was edited on 1/14/25 at 6:57 pm
Posted on 1/14/25 at 6:58 pm to GEAUXT
They passed this without even finding a source of funding for it. I wouldn’t hold my breath that we ever see it implemented.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 7:06 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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More money in the bank, duh. Are you being serious?
Every good school has a waitlist to get in. The money doesn’t cover full tuition, so I don’t see how they are going to be making more money.
Theoretically, if the program becomes widespread and everyone has access to it (which is supposed to happen in phase 3), then the schools will be able to make more money, but not in the manner in which yall are assuming. They’ll just raise tuition by the amounted granted by the scholarship and still price out the poors while essentially not increasing the out of pocket amount of their current students.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 7:15 pm to beerJeep
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Look on the bright side… more sports championships?
Now the LHSAA split will never go away
Posted on 1/14/25 at 7:25 pm to Epic Cajun
I think eventually you will end up with three groups of schools.
The best schools won’t take it.
The average schools will take it, but will Jack up their tuition / cut financial aid to the point where it doesn’t actually save parents money, it will just be a give away to the average private schools.
The terrible schools and the for profit mills will jump all over this.
The best schools won’t take it.
The average schools will take it, but will Jack up their tuition / cut financial aid to the point where it doesn’t actually save parents money, it will just be a give away to the average private schools.
The terrible schools and the for profit mills will jump all over this.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:33 pm to whoa
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They passed this without even finding a source of funding for it. I wouldn’t hold my breath that we ever see it implemented
1st phase is basically just transitioning students already on vouchers or "scholarships" to the new system.
Final phase with no income restrictions will cost an estimated $200 million as all of the current private school student receiving zero will get $3400 (number may be off, but it's 50%? of the median per student cost for public school.)
Posted on 1/14/25 at 9:38 pm to whoa
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They passed this without even finding a source of funding for it. I wouldn’t hold my breath that we ever see it implemented.
My understanding is that the funds are payor tax dollars already designated for the public school in your child’s school zone. So a payor simply has the option to take their tax money and use it for private school if they choose. So funding is not really an issue.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 9:51 pm to lpgreat1
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My understanding is that the funds are payor tax dollars already designated for the public school in your child’s school zone. So a payor simply has the option to take their tax money and use it for private school if they choose. So funding is not really an issue.
Your understanding is correct for a student switching from public school to private school. The state will save money in this case.
What you're missing is the approximate 100,000 students currently in private schools which receive $0 from the State. $0 -> $5,000 for 100,000 students.
I was wrong with my numbers earlier. The cost will be closer to $500 million. $260 million is the lowball estimate from the LA Legislature.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 10:02 pm to KamaCausey_LSU
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What you're missing is the approximate 100,000 students currently in private schools which receive $0 from the State. $0 -> $5,000 for 100,000 students.
A lot of people are missing this fact.
Yes, the state will save some money for current public students switching to private, but will cost A LOT MORE for private school students to remain private.
Also remember... this ain't DC... we can't deficit spend. The hundreds of millions of dollars will need to come from either cutting other state spending, or via tax increases.
Also, this is somewhat a uniquely LA "problem" as LA has the highest percentage of private school students in the country.
Posted on 1/15/25 at 4:15 am to KamaCausey_LSU
I guess it’s early and I haven’t had my coffee yet so I apologize if I’m asking a dumb question.
My kids attend private school. I also pay all my taxes which help fund the public school system which we don’t utilize. How is the state spending more money by redirecting funds from public to private in my case? Do they not reduce funding from public schools first before redirecting to private per enrollee utilizing the program? Maybe that would make too much sense for govt.
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My kids attend private school. I also pay all my taxes which help fund the public school system which we don’t utilize. How is the state spending more money by redirecting funds from public to private in my case? Do they not reduce funding from public schools first before redirecting to private per enrollee utilizing the program? Maybe that would make too much sense for govt.
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Posted on 1/15/25 at 7:37 am to Zakatak
You’all are missing the whole point of the program. It was never intended to be for existing private schools. Givening it to existing private schools is the seed to start the steal. After the program is funded you will see the Booby Jindaly School for the gifted, the 6 Jeff Landry schools for the gifted…. Etc.. (insert politicians names) created as private schools to scope up the money.
Posted on 1/15/25 at 7:47 am to Zakatak
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My kids attend private school. I also pay all my taxes which help fund the public school system which we don’t utilize. How is the state spending more money by redirecting funds from public to private in my case? Do they not reduce funding from public schools first before redirecting to private per enrollee utilizing the program? Maybe that would make too much sense for govt.
Your children don't currently count towards the enrollment numbers for public schools. So there is no reduction in enrollment or technical justification for reducing public school funding in this case.
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