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re: Kylie Jenner: this has to be a troll gofundme-right?

Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:12 pm to
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:12 pm to
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But let's not pretend like she Steve f-ing Jobs.


Im not pretending she is steve f-ing jobs


Im just also not pretending she didnt use her likeness and position to maker herself more money
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:14 pm to
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On a completely unrelated note - I just stumbled across this old music video from the 80's while wasting time at work.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:15 pm to
You do know people are stupid, right?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:15 pm to
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You spelled “whore” wrong.

Nah, I said what I meant
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:18 pm to
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Saying self-made to me means you took a nothing to no one brand and made it huge. She already had a following before she started the make-up line and knew idiot tweens and teens would gush for her stuff only because of who she is. Doing what Daymond John did with FUBU and what she did with her makeup line are not the same.
Yeh but see now out of bitterness you are being just as petty as the left


I guarantee if you started a successful business libs would say you werent self made because you went to a private school and were born with privelage


We all have more advantages than some, and less advantages than some. However, what we do with those advantages is still up to us and nothing should be taken away or no qualifiers added for using them to make ones own situation better
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:18 pm to
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Im just also not pretending she didnt use her likeness and position to maker herself more money


Using your likeness and position to make money is not being "self-made". I am not hating on the girl because I would love to have been worth that kind of money at that age or any age but let's not kid ourself and act like she had to go store to store and sell her product until the company finally made it.
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:19 pm to
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Having a business that grosses $900M in sales is not the same as being worth $900M


That’s not what makes her worth 900m. Her business (of which she owns 100%) is valued by Forbes at several hundred million, and the rest of her net worth is from endorsements and other things.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:21 pm to
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Using your likeness and position to make money is not being "self-made".
That is such bullshite and you would lose your mind when used against you


You are literally throwing out the privilege card here
Posted by UGATiger26
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Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:22 pm to
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It is the actual definition of self made


I'm pretty sure there is no formal definition of "self-made" as it pertains to financial/business success.

But I'd imagine the informal definition for most people is closer to:

"someone who became successful despite not having any advantages or significant help."

as opposed to...

"someone who became successful by leveraging their family's money and fame."
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:24 pm to
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"someone who became successful despite not having any advantages or significant help."
Well this just isnt self made and this leads to the bitching that the left uses
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I'm pretty sure there is no formal definition of "self-made" as it pertains to financial/business success
But there is

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made such by one's own actions


This post was edited on 7/13/18 at 3:25 pm
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:27 pm to
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"someone who became successful despite not having any advantages or significant help."

Also who doesnt have advantages?


I mean alot of people in here went to private schools. Thats a pretty big life advantage over public schools here


So in your opinion those people cant be self made correct?
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:27 pm to
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made such by one's own actions


So, how exactly would you say this applies to Kylie? I mean the doors were literally opened to her by other people.
This post was edited on 7/13/18 at 3:29 pm
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:28 pm to
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That is such bullshite and you would lose your mind when used against you


You are literally throwing out the privilege card here


They are not one in the same. My "privilege" doesn't mean anything in the business world.

Again, I am not mad in the least about her success, but she didn't have to go through some huge grind to get this business off the ground.

Posted by Packer
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Member since May 2017
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Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:29 pm to
I know it's Wikipedia, but

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In 2014, Kylie Jenner signed on with Kylie Cosmetics’ current parent company, Seed Beauty, a company launched by Laura Thomas that would help build Kylie’s brand from the ground up


I wouldn't call that self made. Kylie didn't build her brand, she just used her face to sell the product that Seed made.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:29 pm to
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So, how exactly would you say this applies to Kylie?

Kyle chose to allign herself with this makeup brand and promote it with her social media

That is literally her own actions


If it was simply by birth like yall are claiming, why is her brother worht about $100k and not 100s of millions?
This post was edited on 7/13/18 at 3:29 pm
Posted by TDcline
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Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:30 pm to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:30 pm to
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My "privilege" doesn't mean anything in the business world.


You dont think it helped us going to private schools over the public schools we would have attended?

You dont think being raised by two parents that cared didnt help us in the business world?


Please man
This post was edited on 7/13/18 at 3:31 pm
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:30 pm to
Easier for female celebrities to promote beauty products.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112582 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:31 pm to
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Easier for female celebrities to promote beauty products.
Ok

Her net worth is still 930 million more than two of her sisters

And 970 million more than her full blooded sister
This post was edited on 7/13/18 at 3:32 pm
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:32 pm to
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Kyle chose to allign herself with this makeup brand and promote it with her social media

That is literally her own actions


So, did she create the brand? Is she famous because of her own actions or the actions of others?

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If it was simply by birth like yall are claiming, why is her brother worht about $100k and not 100s of millions?


You seem to be operating under the delusion that making good business decisions = self made. She used her fame, that was largely brought on from her sisters, to catapult a brand that she didn't create.

She has made some great business decisions. That does not make one "self-made".
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