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re: Kylie Jenner: this has to be a troll gofundme-right?

Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:32 pm to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112582 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:32 pm to
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You seem to be operating under the delusion that making good business decisions = self made
Yeh, no shite
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41839 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:33 pm to
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I wouldn't call that self made. Kylie didn't build her brand, she just used her face to sell the product that Seed made.


Thank you. Obviously phenomenal business decision by her. Self made she is not.
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9128 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:33 pm to
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But there is


First of all, just because something is in a dictionary doesn't make it the absolute law of the universe. There's a whole history of how dictionaries came to be and the constant, never-ending evolution they go through.

What is typically more important is how the word or phrase is utilized and understood by society.

You're being extremely legalistic with your interpretation.

Technically, by the definition you provided, if my dad said "UGATiger26, if you wash the dishes, I'll give you $1,000,000" and I did it, that would make me a "self-made millionaire."

But I think any rational person would agree that I barely did shite to earn $1,000,000.
Posted by CaptainPanic
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Member since Sep 2011
25582 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:33 pm to
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Also who doesnt have advantages?
I think it is more about self-defense for these people. Most people bitching about this are the ones who could be much, much wealthier today had they not made poor decisions and they hate watching others succeed because of it. There's always one guy/girl that "brags" about how miserable he/she is because they put their life into their work without leaving time to enjoy it. Nobody wants to hear a pity party & nobody respects that type of person in the workplace.

So nut up & worry about making yourself successful instead of crying when others surpass you.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41839 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:33 pm to
quote:

You seem to be operating under the delusion that making good business decisions = self made
Yeh, no shite


Why? They are not the same.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112582 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:35 pm to
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I think it is more about self-defense for these people.
100%


The same people lose their mind when people blame them for their "advantages", yet do the same for those with more advantages than them




It is pure hypocrisy the way I see it



Really nothing more to say.

Back to Wimbledon and work for me
This post was edited on 7/13/18 at 3:35 pm
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41839 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:36 pm to
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It is pure hypocrisy the way I see it


She literally bought into a brand that already existed, using her fame that came about due to her sisters, and you're trying to argue that is self made


Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15825 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:37 pm to
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You dont think it helped us going to private schools over the public schools we would have attended?

You dont think being raised by two parents that cared didnt help us in the business world?


Please man


My point is the company would not have been as successful to this point if the person starting it was my sister. She absolutely used her platform to promote it and helped make it a success but that doesn't make her "self-made".

Had she made the products, found a way to mass produce, sold it, etc and built it; then yes she would be "self-made".
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112582 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:37 pm to
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She literally bought into a brand that already existed, using her fame that came about due to her sisters, and you're trying to argue that is self made
That brand literally wouldnt be worth what it is without her marketing of it


You pretending otherwise is pretty funny
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41839 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:39 pm to
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That brand literally wouldnt be worth what it is without her marketing of it


You pretending otherwise is pretty funny


I have yet to say anything counter to this. Nobody said she didn't grow the brand. Not a single person.


Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
9504 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:55 pm to
Defending the Kardashian cult hardcore

And

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Back to Wembledon


Posted by loopback
Member since Jul 2011
5020 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:56 pm to
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lsupride87


I've read this whole thread and one thing stands clear to me: I would hate to end up stuck in an elevator with you. I'm pretty sure I already hate you.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40803 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:58 pm to
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I wouldn't call being a part of your families tv show then starting a make-up line exactly "self-made"



You grew up in that family and you ain’t fricked in the head, you are self made.
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15825 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 4:00 pm to
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You grew up in that family and you ain’t fricked in the head, you are self made.


That is hard to argue.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40803 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 4:03 pm to
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So, how exactly would you say this applies to Kylie? I mean the doors were literally opened to her by other people.



So you agree that trump was born on 3rd and someone else’s hit a single to drive him in?

I went to an elite private school cause my mom thought her wages were well spent on my dumb brain, she was wrong i am still stupid but with wealthier friends than i would have had. I know more children of fantastically wealthy people that spend their lives traveling and doing blow than I do that made something of themselves.

Y’all hate the kardashians because they like black dudes and make more money than you do.
This post was edited on 7/13/18 at 4:05 pm
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74884 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 4:04 pm to
She is not self made.
Lol
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41839 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 4:05 pm to
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So you agree that trump was born on 3rd and someone else’s hit a triple?

I went to an elite private school cause my mom thought her wages were well spent on my dumb brain. I know more children of fantastically wealthy people that spend their lives traveling and doing blow than I do that made something of themselves.

Y’all hate the kardashians because they like black dudes and make more money than you do.


When have I said I hate any of them? I've already credited her with making incredible business decisions. That still doesn't mean she was self made. How does Trump factor into any of this, exactly?


Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65493 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 4:07 pm to
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lsupride87


You've just laid out the single dumbest argument I've ever seen on TD. And that's saying a lot. There isn't any part of Kardashian that's "Self made". Did she drag her arse to a bank with a business plan to get a loan? Did she sell cosmetics out of the trunk of her 2001 Dodge Caravan? Did she oversee production of her products to make sure QC was in line?

I think you know the answers to this. We all do. Even if you won't admit it.
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15825 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 4:08 pm to
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lsupride87


You've just laid out the single dumbest argument I've ever seen on TD. And that's saying a lot. There isn't any part of Kardashian that's "Self made". Did she drag her arse to a bank with a business plan to get a loan? Did she sell cosmetics out of the trunk of her 2001 Dodge Caravan? Did she oversee production of her products to make sure QC was in line?

I think you know the answers to this. We all do. Even if you won't admit it.


By his thinking, every stay at home mom should have leveraged their Rodan & Fields sales into a billion dollar business.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30763 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 4:23 pm to
it's 100% a troll job and people are giving like jackasses

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