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re: Kylie Jenner: this has to be a troll gofundme-right?
Posted on 7/13/18 at 5:09 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 7/13/18 at 5:09 pm to lsupride87
Well that's a straw man. We're simply talking about the appropriate use of "self made."
No need to apologize for leveraging her family's fame to increase her wealth. But that's obviously what she did. I wouldn't put her in the "self made" category that is reserved for people who were unknown until they "made" themselves.
No need to apologize for leveraging her family's fame to increase her wealth. But that's obviously what she did. I wouldn't put her in the "self made" category that is reserved for people who were unknown until they "made" themselves.
Posted on 7/13/18 at 5:17 pm to GRTiger
How was it a straw man? You were insinuating she shouldn’t be considered self made because she had advantages over others which helped in her making money
Well I would guarantee you and I also have some significant advantages over others
I have never claimed she would not be rich even if she did nothing. I have simply stated the fact her own self made her worth 900 million
Did others help? Of course. But I would question you to find anyone that literally didn’t use help along the way
Well I would guarantee you and I also have some significant advantages over others
I have never claimed she would not be rich even if she did nothing. I have simply stated the fact her own self made her worth 900 million
Did others help? Of course. But I would question you to find anyone that literally didn’t use help along the way
Posted on 7/13/18 at 5:19 pm to lsupride87
I just sent a 100 bucks.
We really need to help this young lady become the first self-made billionaire.
Such an inspiration.
We really need to help this young lady become the first self-made billionaire.
Such an inspiration.
Posted on 7/13/18 at 5:23 pm to lsupride87
quote:
but she is self made
No she's not.
Posted on 7/13/18 at 5:24 pm to lsupride87
You started in on your politics and defending her right not to apologize. I didn't bring any of that up. That's the straw man, obviously.
Are you saying the only way you aren't self made is if you are just given money? I'd consider that a loose definition.
Are you saying the only way you aren't self made is if you are just given money? I'd consider that a loose definition.
Posted on 7/13/18 at 5:27 pm to Rebel
quote:
I just sent a 100 bucks.
We really need to help this young lady become the first self-made billionaire.
Such an inspiration.
She's only self made if she started the gofundme herself, though. I think.
Posted on 7/13/18 at 5:33 pm to GRTiger
Yes
I mean are you and me not self made since our parents cared for us and gave us certain advtages over other children?
That’s a serious question. I’m assuming most in this thread would say none of us are self made
I mean are you and me not self made since our parents cared for us and gave us certain advtages over other children?
That’s a serious question. I’m assuming most in this thread would say none of us are self made
Posted on 7/13/18 at 5:35 pm to lsupride87
I would venture that most everything was handed to her on a silver platter
All she had to do.was say yes and associate her name, and later money, to a project
Other people made the money
All she had to do.was say yes and associate her name, and later money, to a project
Other people made the money
Posted on 7/13/18 at 5:36 pm to Rouge
Why do you think they chose her and not others though?
Posted on 7/13/18 at 5:37 pm to lsupride87
quote:because of her name recognition and superior aesthetics
Why do you think they chose her and not others though?
Posted on 7/13/18 at 5:38 pm to Rouge
I mean her sister was more popular and is actually a model
Seems she should have just been handed everything.....
Seems she should have just been handed everything.....
Posted on 7/13/18 at 5:39 pm to lsupride87
Most of us probably can't wake up and decide to slap our name on a cosmetic product and sell hundreds of millions of dollars worth of the stuff.
From what I've seen, the products were already good to go and the marketing basically ran itself due to the family's name. It was almost guaranteed to succeed.
From what I've seen, the products were already good to go and the marketing basically ran itself due to the family's name. It was almost guaranteed to succeed.
Posted on 7/13/18 at 5:40 pm to GRTiger
quote:correct she has certain advantages over you
gofundme-right?
Most of us probably can't wake up and decide to slap our name on a cosmetic product and sell hundreds of millions of dollars worth of the stuff.
Just like you he advatages over others
I ask again, would you say you are self made or would I be correct in saying you aren’t self made
Posted on 7/13/18 at 5:42 pm to lsupride87
Yes, I am self made, if you want to reach to apply that to middle/upper middle class people.
You keep trying to lump in her pre-made fame and success into general "advantages" like two parents and schooling. That's the only reference I'll make to that since it's stupid to do so.
You keep trying to lump in her pre-made fame and success into general "advantages" like two parents and schooling. That's the only reference I'll make to that since it's stupid to do so.
Posted on 7/13/18 at 5:43 pm to lsupride87
Difference between having advantages and being handed multi-million dollar business opportunities because of your last name
if Paris Hilton was Paris Taylor, she would have been just another skank that rushed Phi Mu
if Paris Hilton was Paris Taylor, she would have been just another skank that rushed Phi Mu
This post was edited on 7/13/18 at 5:43 pm
Posted on 7/13/18 at 5:48 pm to GRTiger
How can you claim you were self made when you have a plethora of advatages in life?
Posted on 7/13/18 at 5:49 pm to Rouge
quote:Ok
Difference between having advantages and being handed multi-million dollar business opportunities because of your last name
What if you are handed 5 million and then turn it into 900 million?
Posted on 7/13/18 at 5:53 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 7/13/18 at 5:53 pm to lsupride87
quote:how much effort, besides my name, did I put into the growth of value
What if you are handed 5 million and then turn it into 900 million?
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