re: Kyle Rittenhouse Trial Discussion Thread

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ould his actions and threats make a reasonable person believe his life is danger?

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He chased Kyle across a parking lot and tried to grab his gun. After earlier saying "if I catch you, I'm going to kill you."

What do you think?

The media, and everyone who follows them, believe you have no right to self defense if you're white, male, and not progressive.

Facts are irrelevant.

Yikes.

What's really crazy is there are millions of people who think they way you do.

As a lawyer who has worked as a prosecutor and defense attorney this is largely a none issue. Its just the media trying to grab headlines and generate interest. Defense attorneys make motions for a mistrial quite often, in large part because they want to preserve the issue for appeal if they choose to go that route afterwards. Its a essentially a low risk, high reward scenario for them. It doesn't cost them anything if they allege issues warranting a mistrial. Worst case scenario is they get nothing, best case is they get a huge victory. Anyone acting like the sky is falling right now doesn't really understand what is happening. It isn't completely irrelevant, but its not some earth-shattering development. Also, judges scold and admonish attorneys all the time, its just that 99.999% of trials don't have every media outlet live tweeting them trying to beat each other for page clicks.

Edit: Some people seem to be under the impression that a lawyer doing something wrong = a mistrial. This is why objections exist and why we have a judge. If the prosecutor had been able to pursue that line of questioning and delve into the defendant’s invocation of rights, that would create serious issues on appeal. However the judge did his job and shut it down, which the prosecutor knew he would most likely do. Mistrials are a nuclear option for only the most egregious of issues. Sometimes lawyers ask a question that they know will result in an objection that the judge will sustain….they are really just trying to make a point that they want to jury to think about.(+376)

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That is some powerful stupid. We should just give soldiers unloaded gun and send them off to war. The enemy will see their guns and run away.

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We should have just TOLD the Japanese we had the bomb. That would have worked

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At that time rosenbum closed the distance and reached for kyle's gun and holy shite what was he supposed to do?

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Call the social workers. Duh.

I’m posting shite from Reddit

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Defense attorneys make motions for a mistrial quite often,

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In the instant case, I'd say that while the threat of moving for a mistrial is of some value, I believe the defense should proactively avoid that scenario in reality because their case for acquittal of the severe charges is much too good at this point, and a mere mistrial (without prejudice, which would be most likely, if anything) would only serve to allow the government another bite at the apple, with the benefit and advantage of knowing where they need to improve their case.

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I get it, you feel there's a need to be contrarian and to push back, but you should just be a bit more selective where and when you do it. That's nothing more than friendly advice there.

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meh i'm kind of wondering what the age range is for the jury

i know it's supposed to be random but that means there's only one or two probably close to KR's age that can understand what he could have been thinking. Everyone else would have a more mature mindset.

i know everyone used to be 17 once but now we're not. 30s me wouldn't do things 17-early 20s me would do and that probably holds true for everybody