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re: Kyle Rittenhouse Trial Discussion Thread

Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:57 pm to
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:57 pm to
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Yeah, when it’s your property. I can’t shoot my gun at someone to stop them from entering property I don’t own and wasn’t asked to defend. So by holding a gun to them only acts as an unauthorized threat to someone’s life.
Couldn’t I legally stand in front of the property with a gun at my side as a deterrent without shooting or pointing a gun at someone?

Are you incapable of understanding my simple responses?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
60660 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:57 pm to
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as a 17 year old he had no idea what he was doing
quote:

if this were true, he could not be tried.

can you explain?
Simple. If he is incapable of understanding the consequences of his actions, he cannot be tried. He would be using an insanity defense. Or claiming he is mentally disabled (retarded). Also same reason children are not tried as adults.

Clearly he knew what he could/couldn't do. The idiotic prosecutor established that while trying to trip him up on the "protect property" line of questioning.
This post was edited on 11/10/21 at 12:59 pm
Posted by SPEEDY
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Member since Dec 2003
85362 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:58 pm to
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Wait what?



quote:

While questioning Rittenhouse, Assistant District Attorney Thomas Binger implied that his silence ahead of the trial was potentially incriminating. Rittenhouse’s attorney objected to the line of questioning. The judge sustained the defense’s objection and admonished the prosecutor for implying Rittenhouse should be penalized for exercising his constitutional right to remain silent.

“This is a grave constitutional violation for you to talk about the defendant’s silence, you’re right on the border line, you may be over. It better stop…This is not permitted,” the judge said, speaking to the prosecution attorney,


quote:

Assistant District Attorney Thomas Binger started a line of questioning that targeted the 18-year-old's decision to remain silent after the deadly August 2020 shooting in Kenosha, Wisconsin.

But after Rittenhouse's attorney Mike Richards objected, Kenosha County Judge Bruce Schroeder paused the trial, sent the jury out of the room, and told Binger he was close to crossing the line.

"I was astonished when you began your examination by commenting on the defendant's post-arrest silence," Schroeder shouted. "That's basic law. It's been basic law in this country for 40 or 50 years … I don't know what you're up to."

"You're an experienced trial lawyer, and this should not have been gone into," the judge added.

This post was edited on 11/10/21 at 1:02 pm
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18001 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

So by holding a gun to them only acts as an unauthorized threat to someone’s life.


When did this happen?
Posted by Tacktheritrix
Wonderland
Member since Jun 2013
1191 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:58 pm to
Can someone post the link to the live coverage?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
138130 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:58 pm to
Are there any clips of the judge dressing down Binder available yet?
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:59 pm to
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was that business insured?


Lol

100% bait

Get fricked
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
51736 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:59 pm to
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demonstrating or showing one has the means of force as a deterrent to protect property can be legally accomplished without using deadly force.
and he could have did this without bullets in the gun…
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54691 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:00 pm to
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and he could have did this without bullets in the gun…

Or not. What’s your point? Or are you missing the context of the conversation completely?

ETA: I see you are just trolling. Carry on.
This post was edited on 11/10/21 at 1:01 pm
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6841 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:00 pm to
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
130244 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:00 pm to
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But no part of why he went there with a weapon was something he was legally authorized to do,


I didn’t realize the scumbag rioters were legally authorized to terrorize Kenosha. Are you legally authorized to shake off your peepee when you make tinkles or does your mommy have to do it for you?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
74976 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:00 pm to
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and he could have did this without bullets in the gun…
And the rioters could have not attacked him.

It really all goes back to that.

If they don’t attack him, he doesn’t shoot anyone.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
138130 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:00 pm to
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Can someone post the link to the live coverage?


Rekeita Law

At lunch right now. But there is commentary from panel of YouTube lawyers.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:01 pm to
a couple of them are prosecutors and think Binger was way out of line and should be disbarred.
Posted by Winston Cup
Dallas Cowboys Fan
Member since May 2016
66439 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:02 pm to
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If they don’t attack him, he doesn’t shoot anyone.

the news already painted him as a murderer and a white supremacist a year ago. anyone who thinks this little trial for show is going to result in him being acquitted of murder hasnt been paying attention the last year.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
51736 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

Insurance doesn’t stop fire from destroying everything you worked for.



It don’t, but it gives you money to build new again
Posted by BROpaneTANK
Mandeville
Member since Apr 2010
2964 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

Couldn’t I legally stand in front of the property with a gun at my side as a deterrent without shooting or pointing a gun at someone? Are you incapable of understanding my simple responses?


I think you’re intentionally ignoring pretty much everything I’m saying. Yeah you can stand there with your gun, and like Rittenhouse you can surely defend yourself from people that are trying to disarm you. Which he will rightfully get off for. But if those people walk right past you and break a window, you do not have the. Right to shoot them. Literally my only point.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6841 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:03 pm to
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the news already painted him as a murderer and a white supremacist a year ago. anyone who thinks this little trial for show is going to result in him being acquitted of murder hasnt been paying attention the last year.

I hope you're wrong but I agree with you.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:03 pm to
Can we imagine for a second that the rioters are Muslim extremists loyal to ISIS. They are burning businesses and destroying your community while the police stand down and do not pursue these people.

What are you thoughts on Rittenhouse with that in mind?

Is your immediate first thought… are those businesses insured? Because that’s an absurd first thought
This post was edited on 11/10/21 at 1:04 pm
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
38633 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:04 pm to
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And the rioters could have not attacked him.

It really all goes back to that.

If they don’t attack him, he doesn’t shoot anyone.


It's not about the rioters personal responsibility. They have the right to do whatever they want. Burn, kill, destroy, anything is justified in the war for social justice.

It's about Kyle Rittenhouse, a white supremacist, murdering a peaceful protestor.

If he gets acquitted, this is a clear example of his white privilege and the white supremacy inherent in the justice system.
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