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re: Kirk Herbstreit slams Travel Ball culture

Posted on 8/10/25 at 7:39 pm to
Posted by TDTOM
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 7:39 pm to
He is a bitch.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 7:43 pm to
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He is a bitch.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 7:49 pm to
When I was a teenager, rec ball used to be from mid - May to the first week in July, each team played two games a week. I think it was 8-9 year olds, 10-11 yr olds and then 12-13 year olds. The 12-13 year olds always had less teams from people deciding not play anyone or whatever, but even then it was like 8-9 kids. And there were kids who sat the bench.

I don't know how its done in the divisions travel ball today, but travel ball and even rec (which has maybe 2 or 3 teams. They have to merge with another parish) they will have 10 kids.. Some 9. Because god forbid someone has to sit the bench. And then they don't have one champion. If the two teams in the championship is from each parish, the 2nd place team still gets a championship for being the best in the parish. So the two championship teams and then the 2nd place teams all get rings. The 2nd place teams get smaller rings and its fake looking rings an all, but growing up. A lot of kids in rec didn't play HS ball, but it was competitive.

It seems like every year there were 2 or 3 kids who could crush the ball or that one kid who was faster than everyone else and each team was picked at random (although you knew a team or two whose coach had some say so on who was on their team so those were the teams everyone wanted to beat). And kids would stay and watch the other games because everyone had friends on the other team.

Then every once in awhile a kid no one expected to do so would finally make a play. The right fielder who coach put in when the game was out of control would actually catch a pop fly and that one catch will probably be the best memory from his childhood.

I don't think anyone ever became a pro because they played travel ball. If someone is good enough colleges will find them.. Their HS coaches will make calls for them.

There needs to be a revolution to bring back things that were a net positive to society. As well as a music revolution.
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 7:50 pm to
Herbstreet’s kids never got a D1 offer either
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 7:50 pm to
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This is like a bat sign to the travel dad's. They'll be here soon enough to tell you how the $300K they've collectively spent on their kids baseball all paid off when they got that scholly to Bethune Cookman, Centenary, Belhaven, LSUE, etc.




I wonder how many travel kids from BR have made LSU's team the last 10 years.

I know of only a couple.

Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 7:57 pm to
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Herbstreet’s kids never got a D1 offer either


I think his twins played D1 football and one of his sons currently plays. Not sure if they were walkons are what. His twins went to Clemson.
Posted by MMauler
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 8:02 pm to
Someone should invite Kirk to the OT. Sounds like he'd fit right in.
Posted by bknight00
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 8:05 pm to
The only thing worse than travel ball culture is bringing your dog EVERYWHERE culture.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 8:15 pm to
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The only thing worse than travel ball culture is bringing your dog EVERYWHERE culture.

In my experience, most people smile when they see a dog in public; very few people smile when they see a child in public
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 8:27 pm to
He ain’t wrong. It’s crazy how some people allow travel ball to take over their lives. When my son was young, the family across the street, who’s son had played rec league ball with my son, put their son in travel ball after their first year of kid pitch. I remember we’d be done with rec league All-Stars around Memorial Day, and after that my son got to be a regular kid on summer break from school. He’d go outside and play with the neighborhood boys all day until it was getting dark, or go spend a week with his grandparents at the lake, and we’d go on family vacations. Baseball was the last thing on his mind.

What was our neighbor doing with his kid? Practices all week and traveling all over the Southeast on weekends. Vacation? Maybe if you consider a weekend at a ballpark eating concession stand hotdogs in somewhere like Valdosta, GA a vacation.

The irony of it all though, when the boys got up to Jr High, they both went out for JV baseball. My son made the team, the neighbor’s son didn’t.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 8:27 pm to
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wonder how many travel kids from BR have made LSU's team the last 10 years.

I know of only a couple.


It’s LSU. Dudes are coming from all over… if the roster was BR-centric that would be a problem
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120295 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 8:31 pm to
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your dog EVERYWHERE culture.


I love dogs.. I have two myself.. They are pets. I hate going to places to eat where they allow dogs. Like Mid City beer garden. The first time I went there the people on side of us had a boxer and when we got our food that dog stared at us the whole time. Then another time I went there, a girl with a pitbull was in there.. And she had this cage looking muzzle on him. If your dog needs a muzzle leave it home. It just seems strange to me.

I know a lot of people would disagree, but its a reason I don't go there. They actually have good food. I remember going there when they opened up after being closed during covid. They wouldn't allow you in without a mask and I had to go back to the car and get mine. You couldn't get in without a mask, which if it was an a store, doctors office, etc really didn't bother me much, but you had to have a mask to get in and "allowed" you to take it off once you were at your table. But they allowed a bunch of hippies in there with their dogs that looked liked it never been bathed and probably had a touch of rabies.
Posted by Dtiger19
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 8:32 pm to
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I wonder how many travel kids from BR have made LSU's team the last 10 years.

Wonder how many non travel ball kids, from anywhere, made LSU’s team the last 10 years? I don’t know of any.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 8:33 pm to
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wonder how many travel kids from BR have made LSU's team the last 10 years.

I know of only a couple.


What a terrible take. If it's a couple, then that's a good number, considering LSU is THE national brand of college baseball.

I wonder how many rec ball only kids have made LSU's team in the last 10 years? I know of zero.


Can you at least see how ignorant what you said is now?
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 8:37 pm to
Agree 100%
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 8:37 pm to
If you have a kid who is a great athlete and loves baseball you are a bad father if you keep him in rec ball. Period

How is that for a curveball? Imagine having a kid with potential and love for the game and you keep him in rec ball so you can go pound more beers and be lazy at 30a and sound cool on the internet

Now if your kid doesn’t love it or isn’t a great athlete and you force it on them you also suck as a parent.
This post was edited on 8/10/25 at 8:39 pm
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 8:37 pm to
from a HS coaching stand point, my experience was in basketball and the biggest downside was kids coming to us for the school team after playing so many meaningless games they become sort of numb to it all

or worse they become selfish and entitled pricks that are only out there for their image and ego and become practically uncoachable

dont get me started on the parents
Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 8:53 pm to
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I wonder how many travel kids from BR have made LSU's team the last 10 years.


that’s a pretty long list.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29288 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 8:55 pm to
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If you have a kid who is a great athlete and loves baseball you are a bad father if you keep him in rec ball. Period


Pretty sad it’s come to that tbh

The fact that kids now have to sacrifice a large part of their childhood just for the sake of possibly making their high school team is really sad. I understand the truly elite kids doing it, but now it seems it’s exploded way past that. I can understand older kids (11+) doing the yr round thing, but now you see kids starting as young as 5/6. It seems it’s nothing but a giant time suck and in some instances unfair to the rest of the family who may have other interests.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108598 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 8:57 pm to
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The fact that kids now have to sacrifice a large part of their childhood just for the sake of possibly making their high school team is really sad. I understand the truly elite kids doing it, but now it seems it’s exploded way past that. I can understand older kids (11+) doing the yr round thing, but now you see kids starting as young as 5/6. It seems it’s nothing but a giant time suck and in some instances unfair to the rest of the family who may have other interests.
Dont listen to the internet

99% of travel ball kids finish early June, don’t play again until September, and are off November through February as well

And most people “travel” 15 miles at most

The best kids from what I see all are studs on the Flag football leagues and basketball leagues as well
This post was edited on 8/10/25 at 9:00 pm
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