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re: Kids with phones or tablets.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 7:20 pm to GreenRockTiger
Posted on 11/17/21 at 7:20 pm to GreenRockTiger
Just signed a contract for a 20yo blonde Sicilian to move in with us to be his full time nanny for a year, She will be the only expensive toy he is getting for a while. Not sure he will be looking to play with her box at this age, but who knows
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Posted on 11/17/21 at 7:24 pm to SuperSaint
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20yo blonde Sicilian
??? Does not compute
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She will be the only expensive toy he is getting for a while.
Are you going to let her teach him Italian? It’s close enough to Spanish that it may come in handy one day - especially in Cali
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Not sure he will be looking to play with her box at this age, but who knows
You’ll have to see if the pimping lessons at Gymboree will pay off … you are his father
ETA: jokes aside - that’s great you can do that - kids should be at their home when they are little
This post was edited on 11/17/21 at 7:25 pm
Posted on 11/17/21 at 7:33 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Kids are active, kids need a phone.
Set limits, hold your kids to those limits.
This is twice in one day I've agreed with you, Roger. I'm questioning things.
In all seriousness, this is a current discussion with the SO's ex-wife over the 13-year-old and a phone. Myself and the SO believe she's old enough at this point to stay home alone for a bit by herself and there needs to be access to a phone for emergencies. And we don't have a landline. So we considered putting her on the SO's plan.
The SO's ex-wife freaked the frick out over the thought of it (probably because it'd mean her lazy arse would have to do some parenting) so we met the compromise of letting her have my SO's old Samsung with access to WiFi so she could text and call on the WiFi if there's an issue.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 7:38 pm to jm_1776
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Curious what percentage of parents with children under the age of 13 allow them to have a phone or tablet and what is their reasoning?
Ours just turned 13 and she's had a laptop for awhile and has had online access through her gaming system for a couple of years. But we monitor her shite when she's on those here.
As far as the phone, my rationale is this. When I was her age (I'm 40) we readily had access to landlines and pay phones to utilize in case of an issue. I was a latch key kid who was riding public transportation home from basketball practice at 5:00 pm and was there by myself until my parents got home at about 6:00 pm. Because most of us don't have landlines anymore and pay phones are pretty much non-existent, the phone makes sense. But it's also monitored.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 7:40 pm to SuperSaint
quote:well you're raising him in the bay area...
Not sure he will be looking to play with her box at this age, but who knows
Posted on 11/17/21 at 8:07 pm to jm_1776
At this point we have plenty of testimony. Can we talk about why it’s bad? Is it different from an adult staring at his phone?
I think it’s an epidemic, media epidemic, and it’s roots are the same as the obesity, alcohol, opioid, porn, consumerism, and workaholic epidemic.
People use these as coping mechanism to alter emotions. Bored, stressed, depressed, and also to supplement positive emotions.
Most, people can not sit still one minute, and tolerate their emotions. Not thinking or planing, just siting.
What is this a result of is a good topic, and when is it ok to do these things is a good topic.
In my opinion it is a result of a perceived ever-increasing stressful world, and instant gratification as opposed to delayed.
When is it OK and healthy for an adolescent to drink, or use a smart phone? The answer is when they don’t need to. When they can go to a party and cope with the stressful situation of social anxiety they can drink. when they can cope with the boredom of not being continually entertained by a phone they can have one.
I think it’s an epidemic, media epidemic, and it’s roots are the same as the obesity, alcohol, opioid, porn, consumerism, and workaholic epidemic.
People use these as coping mechanism to alter emotions. Bored, stressed, depressed, and also to supplement positive emotions.
Most, people can not sit still one minute, and tolerate their emotions. Not thinking or planing, just siting.
What is this a result of is a good topic, and when is it ok to do these things is a good topic.
In my opinion it is a result of a perceived ever-increasing stressful world, and instant gratification as opposed to delayed.
When is it OK and healthy for an adolescent to drink, or use a smart phone? The answer is when they don’t need to. When they can go to a party and cope with the stressful situation of social anxiety they can drink. when they can cope with the boredom of not being continually entertained by a phone they can have one.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 2:08 pm to Rust Cohle
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Some cell providers make a dumbed down smart phone that can call up to five people which would be nice.
My daughter still has an LG Gizmo cellular watch but never uses it. She can only call a list or numbers from it and anyone can call her.
Work's w/o a cellphone and has it's own SIM card.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 5:22 pm to StringedInstruments
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So when the kid is emotionally distraught due to a lack of friends and difficulty to connect with them outside of school, the counselor should just ignore it? Or say, “this is what your parents decided. Get over it”?
Yes, that's not your child. Stay in your lane
Posted on 11/19/21 at 1:57 pm to shawnlsu
This thread fascinates me, so I thought I would add for the obvious minority.
I have a flip phone.
My son is 10 and has no ipad, no computer, and no phone.
He has played video games at his cousins' houses.
Yes, he has friends. He loves sports and has played travel baseball, point guard, and goalie in soccer.
It's not easy, but it's easier if you don't start them on it.
I have a flip phone.
My son is 10 and has no ipad, no computer, and no phone.
He has played video games at his cousins' houses.
Yes, he has friends. He loves sports and has played travel baseball, point guard, and goalie in soccer.
It's not easy, but it's easier if you don't start them on it.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 2:18 pm to jm_1776
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Curious what percentage of parents with children under the age of 13 allow them to have a phone or tablet and what is their reasoning? If so, do they also have unsupervised internet access?
My son is 6 and in first grade. We got him an Amazon Fire for Kids tablet for Christmas last year when he was 5 (plays games and does educational stuff, built-in time limits, no internet browser) and this year he also has a school-issued iPad. The iPad has internet browsers on it, but it auto-vpn's through the school's network on any WiFi so it is filtered.
He LOVES a program called Prodigy, which is math problems dressed up like a wizard-fight game. He is already doing 3rd-grade level math on it, and forays into the 8th-grade level from time to time with rudimentary algebra and mathematical geometry. He and another kid in class are in a competition on who can get to level 100 the fastest.
As for reasoning...unless you go full-Amish, technology is where all this will be by the time he graduates high school. I fully anticipate a day (and in many cases it's already here) where there will be no more textbooks and all schoolwork will be done on tablets. I'd rather embrace it under my supervision than reject it and have him embrace it outside my supervision.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 2:22 pm to sertorius
quote:people that have a flip phone love telling others they only have a flip phone
I have a flip phone.
This post was edited on 11/19/21 at 2:22 pm
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