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re: Kentucky high school hosts drag pageant featuring male teens in lingerie giving lap dances

Posted on 10/27/21 at 7:31 pm to
Posted by TheArrogantCorndog
Highland Rd
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 10/27/21 at 7:31 pm to
I guess start with kids giving adults lap dances and then expand from there

Seems a touch problematic, no?
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 10/27/21 at 7:33 pm to
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I guess start with kids giving adults lap dances and then expand from there

Seems a touch problematic, no?
Totally. Was responding to the guy who said the issue was "bad judgment for having his picture taken."
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 10/27/21 at 7:33 pm to
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So if his picture hadn't been taken, it wouldn't be fireable? If this had happened in the days before social media, when "kids could still goof off" without worrying about going viral, it would have been okay?



You’re not pulling together the totality of what I said. I clearly said the point at which this became wrong was the sexualized dancing the students performed upon the various school staff members.

That alone should get a principal fired. But being dumb enough to get your photo taken smirking and not putting a stop to it just makes it that much easier for the school board to terminate your position.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
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Posted on 10/27/21 at 7:33 pm to
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<——My Pops was UK ‘52

Go Big Blue!


Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 10/27/21 at 7:35 pm to
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Just some good ol' boys...never meanin' no harm.


But they been breakin' gender norms since the day they were born.
Posted by Gravitiger
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Posted on 10/27/21 at 7:40 pm to
Probably because that's not what you said.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 10/27/21 at 7:45 pm to
I’ve made several points and they’re documented in case you want to review them. I’ll re-state with a bit more elaboration on what I mean:

1. Teenage kids need to use better discretion. This was probably just a typical “pretty boy” contest that a lot of high schools do but they probably decided to go off script and incorporate sexual dance moves. These boys probably wanted to clown around to make the girls in the audience laugh and show off their bodies.

You can’t do that. Parents are not going to abide by the sexualization of high school students. And videos go viral instantly. You can get yourself and a lot of other people in trouble.

2. The principal used poor judgment. Should have reviewed the program before it started and given a zero tolerance policy for anything lewd that was performed. Instead, he’s clearly documented taking part in the program.
This post was edited on 10/27/21 at 7:46 pm
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 10/27/21 at 7:57 pm to
If (1) is true, then (2) wouldn't have helped. There is also a prior restraint issue there.

Your issue still seems to be more with parents and "documentation' on social media than with the principal participating in simulated sex acts with students.

This post was edited on 10/27/21 at 8:01 pm
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 10/27/21 at 7:58 pm to
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Instead, he’s clearly documented taking part in the program.


Wow, he threw away a lot because of bad judgment. Hazard is a nice town and the high school is excellent.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 10/27/21 at 8:06 pm to
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he threw away a lot because of bad judgment


If he’s lucky with the school board, they could allow him to stay on until the end of the academic calendar. They could justify it as “we could not find a replacement to immediately fill the position.”

Don’t know how this will affect his job as mayor.
This post was edited on 10/27/21 at 8:07 pm
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 8:09 pm to
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Your issue still seems to be more with parents and "documentation' on social media than with the principal participating in simulated sex acts with students.



I’m not okay with them, but I wouldn’t put them on par with what Jerry Sandusky did. This is more like locker room behavior. Granted, it’s the type of locker room behavior that schools have tried to weed out the past 30 years, but it still falls more under the category of “horse play” than “sexual assault.”
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 10/27/21 at 8:11 pm to
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I’m not okay with them, but I wouldn’t put them on par with what Jerry Sandusky did.
I don't think anyone would. No one said anything about "sexual assault."
This post was edited on 10/27/21 at 8:15 pm
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 8:16 pm to
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I don't think anyone would.



I just don’t think the students were ever in danger of being assaulted by the principal. The students initiated it, and the staff members photographed are only *barely* participating. But parents have a right to the peace of mind of never even having to suspect that that would ever be on the mind of their principal or any other staff member at school.

You just can’t tolerate anything sexualized in the school setting if you’re a staff member. It’s more of a parental peace or mind issue.
This post was edited on 10/27/21 at 8:19 pm
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124694 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 8:22 pm to
Some posters on the poli board earlier were actually saying there was nothing wrong this

Morally bankrupt pieces of shite
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12462 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 8:23 pm to
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I just don’t think the students were ever in danger of being assaulted by the principal.
No one is suggesting they were. You're still blaming the kids and the parents rather than the principal who let a student (male or female) give him a lap dance.
This post was edited on 10/27/21 at 8:27 pm
Posted by LSUBFA83
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 10/27/21 at 8:24 pm to
Straight guys dressing in drag used to be a wholesome and hilarious thing.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122175 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 8:27 pm to
Again?
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 8:29 pm to
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You're still blaming the kids and the parents rather than the principal who let a student (male or female) give him a lap dance


We’ve gone back in forth on this so much that I’ve lost track of where I said it, but I’m 99% positive that I said “the principal should have put a stop to it rather than participate in it.”
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 10/27/21 at 8:43 pm to
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We’ve gone back in forth on this so much that I’ve lost track of where I said it, but I’m 99% positive that I said “the principal should have put a stop to it rather than participate in it...”
"...because it will upset the parents if it is recorded."
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
40154 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 8:47 pm to
I remember the football team doing this during homecoming week. The girls would play the powder puff game and the boys would be the cheerleaders/have a pageant. It was for entertainment, though. Not to make a statement.
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