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re: Karen Read murder trial - Not guilty on main - guilty of OUI(DUI) only

Posted on 5/29/25 at 10:27 am to
Posted by jclem11
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/29/25 at 10:27 am to
Hank rested without all the "facts, science, and data" to show beyond a reasonable doubt that KR hit JOK.

Hank is a lying liar who lies.

Grant the motion to dismiss Bev! Do it!
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
6660 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 10:29 am to
Jen McCabe looking out the window twice in 15 minutes would have heard this collision or noticed something different. She heard and saw nothing.
Posted by No Colors
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 5/29/25 at 11:06 am to
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The only way 2 people can keep a secret is if one of them is dead .

Or if the investigators were brought in on the conspiracy, and coached their statements.

There's more evidence of that than there is that Karen murdered someone
Posted by AlxTgr
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 5/29/25 at 11:14 am to
The CW played a clip of KR sayin she thought she may have hit him then rested.
Posted by ILurkThereforeIAm
In the Shadows, Behind Hedges
Member since Aug 2020
832 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 11:26 am to
Is court done for the day?
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 5/29/25 at 11:28 am to
Yes, they resume at 9:30 tomorrow.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
18993 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 11:30 am to
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The CW played a clip of KR sayin she thought she may have hit him then rested.

I still can’t believe they let her do those interviews.
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
6660 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 12:08 pm to
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The CW played a clip of KR sayin she thought she may have hit him then rested.


I thought the actual quote was, "Could I have hit him?"
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
18993 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 1:03 pm to
"Did he come and hit the back of my car and I hit him in the knee and he's drunk and passed out?"

"And when I hired David Yanetti I asked him those questions the night of January 29th. David, what if I ran his foot over or what if I clipped him in the knee? And David said, yeah then you have some element of culpability."
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46369 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 1:05 pm to
What Ifs aren’t a confession. I like that this jury is much younger than the first jury.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 5/29/25 at 1:09 pm to
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I still can’t believe they let her do those interviews.



Agreed but she was merely going over all possibilities and her hitting him was one of those possibilities. I think Brennan used it for max effect but isn't earth shattering.

AJ will dispel it by saying "see how concerned my client was? She even included herself in the list of possibilities yet the CW has been unable to prove anything"
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
18993 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 1:22 pm to
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What Ifs aren’t a confession. I like that this jury is much younger than the first jury.

I never said they were. But publicly admitting that you thought you could have hit him, then saying after you talked to your attorney and he told you that if you did you would be culpable, then that's when you knew for sure that you didn't hit him, it's a bad look.

I still think there's too much reasonable doubt to convict, but those clips could end up screwing her.
This post was edited on 5/29/25 at 1:28 pm
Posted by sosaysmorvant
River Parishes, LA
Member since Feb 2008
1496 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 3:35 pm to
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I still think there's too much reasonable doubt to convict

This trail is - Reasonable Doubt 101. There's just no possible way a jury can unanimously convict her of murder. It's like there is a neon sign blinking "reasonable doubt" in this courtroom.
Posted by BrewDrees95
Member since Jan 2021
468 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 6:53 pm to
Defense can hammer them in close about who the state did not call
Posted by idlewatcher
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Member since Jan 2012
96980 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 7:02 am to
Why is Aunt Bev in the tank for the CW so much? With her not allowing key cycle evidence tied to Trooper Paul which Judas Welcher brought up, it doesn't allow the defense to present it, yet the CW is who entered it into evidence in the first place (odometer reading).

This gal's take is agreeable to me (and she's kinda cute)
Watch the 1st 4 mins
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80525 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 8:18 am to
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Why is Aunt Bev in the tank for the CW so much?


It's unknown. She worked as a public defender for 24 years.

quote:

With her not allowing key cycle evidence tied to Trooper Paul which Judas Welcher brought up, it doesn't allow the defense to present it, yet the CW is who entered it into evidence in the first place (odometer reading).



The defense can call Proctor and get everything in that way. And I really don't see the downside of calling him.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
96980 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 8:20 am to
I think it's a foregone conclusion that Proctor will be called. There is bias all over this case and he's going to have to read his own words......in front of the jury
Posted by Veritas
Member since Feb 2005
10852 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 8:48 am to
The lead investigator has to take the stand. It would be really odd to not hear from the lead investigator.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Member since Jan 2012
96980 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 8:51 am to
I would title him "former lead investigator" as he's no longer employed by them.

ETA: This Disorga guy is super polished
This post was edited on 5/30/25 at 8:57 am
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87396 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 9:17 am to
Why exactly is the Trooper Paul stuff out of bounds?
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