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re: Karen Read murder trial - Not guilty on main - guilty of OUI(DUI) only
Posted on 8/9/24 at 3:51 pm to WadeGarrett
Posted on 8/9/24 at 3:51 pm to WadeGarrett
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The kicker, though, is that every single fact can be disputed because the cops were such unbelievable shitheads.
The issue is that the Alberts were a police family. This makes it very believable that the shitty investigation, the manipulation of footage, and the weird timing of evidence showing up were "back the blue" nonsense. It also makes anything found on the car or on JO's clothes suspicious. They did such a shitty job at the crime scene that you can't rely on ANYTHING they found as truth.
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Posted on 8/9/24 at 4:11 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
quote:And stayed inside during everything.
The issue is that the Alberts were a police family
Posted on 8/9/24 at 5:13 pm to AlxTgr
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And stayed inside during everything.
Their “friend” was just found dead on their front yard and they just slept through it.
This post was edited on 8/10/24 at 5:04 am
Posted on 8/23/24 at 9:25 am to civiltiger07
Posted on 8/23/24 at 9:42 am to civiltiger07
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“However, where there was no acquittal on any of the charges in the defendant’s first trial, there is no risk of subjecting the defendant to double jeopardy by retrial on all charges. Therefore, the Defendant’s Motion to Dismiss is denied.”
Yeah, because you uttered the word, mistrial, before ever inquiring about a verdict and without asking the lawyers if they wanted to poll the jury.
Posted on 8/23/24 at 12:30 pm to AlxTgr
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Yeah, because you uttered the word, mistrial, before ever inquiring about a verdict and without asking the lawyers if they wanted to poll the jury.
That’s just the way it’s done in the state of Mass.
Posted on 8/23/24 at 12:33 pm to AlxTgr
TurtleBoy Article
A juror answered some questions that were submitted to them by TurtleBoy.
The juror said that he/she didn’t quite understand the gravity of the ARCCA testimony.
A juror answered some questions that were submitted to them by TurtleBoy.
The juror said that he/she didn’t quite understand the gravity of the ARCCA testimony.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 1:41 pm to civiltiger07
Civil suit filed on behalf of the family against Karen and two bars. Not sure this is a wise move. The discovery is going to be glorious.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 2:28 pm to civiltiger07
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A juror answered some questions that were submitted to them by TurtleBoy.
Interesting interview.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 7:50 am to AlxTgr
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Not sure this is a wise move. The discovery is going to be glorious.
sounds like the state of Mass. has a 3 year statute of limitations, so with the current trial schedule the retrial won't start until the 3 yr statute is pretty much up.
I guess they figured oh well its now or never. Reading the suit it seems that claims in the suit just completely disregard some facts presented in trail.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 5:08 pm to civiltiger07
A cop has been indicted by the feds for killing Sandra birchmore. Her death was originally ruled a suicide. The investigation team of Sandra’s and JO’s death has some crossover.
Specifically trooper guarino, who was a witness who testified to 2 important parts of KR trial: 1)that a very interesting 2:27am search didn’t actually happen 2) JO’s phone registered ascending or descending stairs was actually driving on a road.
Guarino also missed 32,000 text messages between the victim and the now indicted cop.
Specifically trooper guarino, who was a witness who testified to 2 important parts of KR trial: 1)that a very interesting 2:27am search didn’t actually happen 2) JO’s phone registered ascending or descending stairs was actually driving on a road.
Guarino also missed 32,000 text messages between the victim and the now indicted cop.
This post was edited on 8/29/24 at 5:40 pm
Posted on 9/6/24 at 3:12 pm to AlxTgr
She will be interviewed on abc 20/20 tonight at 8pm if anyone’s interested.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 6:35 am to bdavids09
The defense filed a motion this week that included some very interesting claims.
Essentially the defense hired an expert to review the video of the sallyport that was shown mirrored during the first trial. The expert traveled to Mass. and went to the Canton PD. When he got there he learned that the video had been deleted and no longer exist. So the defense filed the motion to get the fees of the expert paid for by the state.
Another interesting fact that was learned is that Brian Higgins was on video at the Canton PD. The video shows him on the phone and also shows him leaving the PD at 1:35am which seems to show that he lied on the stand in the first trial.
Essentially the defense hired an expert to review the video of the sallyport that was shown mirrored during the first trial. The expert traveled to Mass. and went to the Canton PD. When he got there he learned that the video had been deleted and no longer exist. So the defense filed the motion to get the fees of the expert paid for by the state.
Another interesting fact that was learned is that Brian Higgins was on video at the Canton PD. The video shows him on the phone and also shows him leaving the PD at 1:35am which seems to show that he lied on the stand in the first trial.
Posted on 2/6/25 at 8:30 am to civiltiger07
pre-trial motion hearing today.
Things are not looking good for the Commonwealth.
Things are not looking good for the Commonwealth.
Posted on 2/6/25 at 8:27 pm to civiltiger07
This hearing was just for who has to pay for the cost of the expert right? I noticed they dropped a few more tidbits about more footage still rolling in which is crazy. Is there anyone specific you watch/listen to for this case or do you just watch the trials on your own? I watched a good bit of Lawyer You Know for the first trial. I know Emily D. Baker is popular but I find her somewhat annoying to listen to for an extended period of time.
This post was edited on 2/6/25 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 2/7/25 at 8:20 am to LSBoosie
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This hearing was just for who has to pay for the cost of the expert right?
They discussed a few things. The judge denied the CW motion to not allow Richard Green to testify in the next trail. They argued the defense motion to recover the cost of the expert that went to retrieve the original Sally Port video, and they discussed the schedule going forward.
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I noticed they dropped a few more tidbits about more footage still rolling in which is crazy.
Yea a video was mentioned that shows the Lexus backing into the sally port. That would be a vey interesting video to see. Depending on what is visible in this video it would be interesting to question the people that were there why the pulled it out to drive in forward.
My speculation is that they realized the passenger taillight was visible from the camera.
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Is there anyone specific you watch/listen to for this case or do you just watch the trials on your own? I watched a good bit of Lawyer You Know for the first trial. I know Emily D. Baker is popular but I find her somewhat annoying to listen to for an extended period of time.
I pretty much watch Melanie Little for live coverage, and also watch Lawyer You Know and The Young Jurks. Mark Bederow doesn't have a youtube channel but I like to watch his analysis.
I also watch a few of the channels of people that thing KR is guilty, but i can't watch their stuff for to long.
Posted on 2/7/25 at 9:58 am to civiltiger07
Good to know, I’ll have to check them out. You think the trial starts on time? It seems to me like there is still a good amount of stuff trickling in but they aren’t suing pushing to keep the schedule.
Posted on 2/7/25 at 12:02 pm to LSBoosie
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You think the trial starts on time?
It’s seems the judge is dead set on starting the 2nd trial in April, but other than that I don’t have an insight into the timeline.
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It seems to me like there is still a good amount of stuff trickling in but they aren’t suing pushing to keep the schedule.
The first trial was rushed. Both the defense and state agreed on a delay to start the trial, but the judge forced the trial to start.
Posted on 2/7/25 at 12:35 pm to LSBoosie
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Is there anyone specific you watch/listen to for this case or do you just watch the trials on your own?
Andrea Burkhart. She hasn't been covering the motions so far but her coverage of the first trial was great. She's a public defender in Washington and does minimal talking during the actual trial itself but takes copious notes and goes through them all during breaks, lunch, and when the day ends.
Posted on 2/11/25 at 1:15 pm to civiltiger07
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Mark Bederow doesn't have a youtube channel but I like to watch his analysis.
Well I won't be able to watch Mark Bederow give his analysis on this trial. He motion was just filed to admit Bederow to the defense team.
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