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Kansas judge calls girls, 13 & 14, the 'aggressor' in a child sex solicitation case

Posted on 2/4/19 at 3:33 pm
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 3:33 pm
what in the hell is going on?

1st we have a judge in TX that backs a mom who is abusing her 6 year old son (Texas child transgender case), and now this?

13 and 14 year old girls were "asking for it"

it's almost like evil is starting to take over in this country

almost...

Kansas judge calls girls, 13 and 14, the 'aggressor' in a child sex solicitation case


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A Kansas judge has come under fire for saying in court that two girls--solicited by an online predator to have sex with him when they were 13 and 14--were partly to blame for what happened to them.

“I do find that the victims in this case, in particular, were more an aggressor than a participant in the criminal conduct,” Leavenworth County Judge Michael Gibbens said in remarks delivered at a December sentencing for a 67-year-old man who paid for sex with the two girls, according to a report in the Kansas City Star.

The Star reported on Sunday that Gibbens ignored prosecutors in sentencing Raymond Soden to nearly six years in prison. Prosecutors said Soden had a prior conviction for battery and sexual battery and had asked that he be sentenced to more than 13 years in prison.




the judge's excuse???

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The paper reported that Gibbens explained his reasoning for the more lenient sentence by saying that the two girls went to Soden’s house voluntarily and took money from him for sexual favors.


let's say this is true & the girls made a poor choice & even behaved badly - how does this mitigate the punishment of a 67 year old man soliciting children for sex?

anyone think he was a 1st offender???
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 3:36 pm to
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let's say this is true & the girls made a poor choice & even behaved badly - how does this mitigate the punishment of a 67 year old man soliciting children for sex?

anyone think he was a 1st offender???


Did they prove the old man knew their ages?
Posted by dcbl
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 3:37 pm to
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Did they prove the old man knew their ages?
yes, article says he knew that one of them was 13
This post was edited on 2/4/19 at 3:38 pm
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 3:38 pm to
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two girls went to Soden’s house voluntarily and took money from him for sexual favors.


If this were 2 boys, this board would be posting the south Park nice gif and various pictures of wood and plows all over the place.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
22313 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 3:38 pm to
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yes, article says he knew that one of them was 13


Then the only explanation would be old man pity.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 3:38 pm to
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went to Soden’s house voluntarily


Of course they aren't to blame for the exploitation, but they also should've known better than to put themselves in this position where it's ripe for something like this to happen.

If you go into some guy's creepy van for candy, do you expect to actually get candy? No.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 3:39 pm to
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If this were 2 boys, this board would be posting the south Park nice gif and various pictures of wood and plows all over the place.



Because we are different.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 3:39 pm to
At first, I was thinking, "well, maybe the judge had read all the messages from all conversations. That's why he specifically may feel that way.."

Then I got to..
quote:

a 67-year-old man who paid for sex with the two girls


Yeah, that judge should know better.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 3:41 pm to
How old is 14 really?

Posted by Demshoes
Up in here
Member since Aug 2015
10757 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 3:42 pm to
Hey Judge!



Maybe we need to check this judge's phone and computer.....
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 3:42 pm to
dont think it should lessen the mans punishment for solicitation, but the girls did their part. They should be punished too. Especially if their parents arent going to or able to control them. Hard lessens learned when kids start messing with what should be adult behaviors.

And is it saying this is the first time these girls have done this?

So what would you say if it it was boys that tag teamed a sexy older woman?? High five the boys I'm sure
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112518 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 3:42 pm to
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Because we are different.

Correct. Girls mature sexually and mentally earlier
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 3:44 pm to
You're right. Girls mature faster. So it's even creepier when the boys getting raped is celebrated here.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56769 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 3:45 pm to
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Correct. Girls mature sexually and mentally earlier



Eggs are precious. Sperm is not. We care more about women being abused or in shitty situations because men are expendable simply from a reproductive standpoint.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 2/4/19 at 3:55 pm to
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TOSOV
you are obviously not familiar with me
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 3:55 pm to
I had refreshed my screen, and the zoom was inadvertently used, the text was large and these were the only words I saw from your post.

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boys getting raped is celebrated here.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 4:01 pm to
Considering they took cash in exchange, they knew what they were doing. That doesn’t excuse the pervert, though.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 4:04 pm to
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That doesn’t excuse the pervert, though.



Not at all. That's why he got 6 years in jail. He's 67. He could easily die in jail.
Posted by EyeTwentyNole
Member since Mar 2015
4199 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 4:21 pm to
Over/under 75% that this judge has downloaded images of underage girls
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

Eggs are precious. Sperm is not. We care more about women being abused or in shitty situations because men are expendable simply from a reproductive standpoint.




Pretty creepy how you boil this down to just simply biology.

And completely ignore other things like the mental state of the male doing something he's not mature enough for and being negatively influenced by a degenerate woman and ethical concerns about the adult women being in a position of authority entrusted to her.

You're honestly no different than the morons who told me with a straight face that a 10-14 year old boy can have a normal relationship with a woman that's at least a decade older in her mid twenties.
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