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re: Just the IRS practicing taking down a landscaper at gunpoint.

Posted on 8/20/22 at 12:33 pm to
Posted by cable
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 12:33 pm to
I just don't buy it based on my experience. I've seen some pretty egregious things from clients over the years and nothing like that has ever happened. I've only had mostly decent interactions with IRS employees.
Posted by IAmNERD
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 12:34 pm to
The Twitteratti are all giddy as school children in the comments
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 12:40 pm to
And I will cede to your experience which is infinitely greater than mine. But I would hope you would cede that the video is a very bad look. And it is not an aberration. I have seen articles as far back as 2017 through 2022 showing this training/recruitment being done at Stockton University.
Posted by Steadyhands
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 12:59 pm to
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Are we now suddenly going to be arrested because something on taxes was files incorrectly? It certainly appears that way


If you are a total moron that operates off of propaganda and talking points


So this video wasn't about the irs?

Also, you don’t add 87k to cover some shortage of personnel, that's to conduct new/additional work. This is not going o be for strictly enforcing sales over 600.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 1:01 pm to
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So this video wasn't about the irs?


This video is 5+ years old. It has nothing to do with the new funding. What about that is hard to understand? There's been multiple posters in here that think IRS agents are just now starting to carry weapons and that this video is new.

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This is not going o be for strictly enforcing sales over 600.


I agree, they're going to be doing almost strictly other things
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 1:01 pm to
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My problem with that is that people don't really have records for their basis on most things sold on Ebay for small amounts. Really most of the crap sold on Ebay now comes from China - so how are they going to enforce these rules on those sellers?
Paypal now requires your tax information. Most people purchase stuff off Ebay with Paypal. Or at least used to. I still do.
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 1:04 pm to
Posted by Intelligent
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 1:05 pm to
oh man
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 1:09 pm to
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 1:15 pm to
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Remember, paying federal income tax is voluntary. The fact that they've convinced Americans to comply, as their patriotic duty, is why it has become mandatory in the minds of most.



Damn, you are a retard


Sorry if you've already answered this, but I'm just curious as to know why you think the government is beefing up the IRS?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 1:23 pm to
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Sorry if you've already answered this, but I'm just curious as to know why you think the government is beefing up the IRS?


I think their theory is its been understaffed for years and there are certain things like S Corp Comp and sole proprietorahip deductions that are ripe with fraudulent activity.

I also thing they're democrats and just spend a shite ton of money to spend it.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 1:28 pm to
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Sorry if you've already answered this, but I'm just curious as to know why you think the government is beefing up the IRS?



I think their theory is its been understaffed for years and there are certain things like S Corp Comp and sole proprietorahip deductions that are ripe with fraudulent activity.
In your opinion, do you think this will rectify the fraudulent activity, or is this more a scare tactic to make those people "come clean" on their tax forms? And if the latter, do you think it will work, or is it your experience that these folks disregard the increase in IRS agents?
This post was edited on 8/20/22 at 1:38 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 1:41 pm to
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In your opinion, do you think this will rectify the fraudulent activity, or is this more a scare tactic to make those people "come clean" on their tax forms? And if the latter, do you think it will work, or is it your experience that these folks disregard the increase in IRS agents?


I think the shear numbers of sole proprietors and the greyness of what's a business expense will continue to be a problem, but if audits are happening I could see some increase in compliance. I think the S Corp Comp is going to be a huge deal and there will be audits and there will be assessments and there will be changes by S Corp "shareholders"
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 2:51 pm to
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This video is 5+ years old. It has nothing to do with the new funding

Posted by Old Money
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 3:03 pm to
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 3:10 pm to
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In your opinion, do you think this will rectify the fraudulent activity, or is this more a scare tactic to make those people "come clean" on their tax forms? And if the latter, do you think it will work, or is it your experience that these folks disregard the increase in IRS agents?



I think the shear numbers of sole proprietors and the greyness of what's a business expense will continue to be a problem, but if audits are happening I could see some increase in compliance. I think the S Corp Comp is going to be a huge deal and there will be audits and there will be assessments and there will be changes by S Corp "shareholders"
So, it's your opinion that basically this is a nothinburger for the Average Joe?

Seems like the media is making a pretty big deal of this. Or maybe it's just my overreaction. I just know from life experience that when the media makes a big deal about something, there's usually a reason behind it. And it's never the reason they tell you it is.
Posted by Shankopotomus
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 3:28 pm to
No the response is not enough IMO. The weaponization of the IRS against right and Christian leaning non-profits under Obama should remind everyone of how bad this could get. It is and will always be a war on small business / middle class because that’s the threat to the authoritarians. Either be a big business / special interest or on the take. Otherwise - pay up for that “freedom”
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 3:29 pm to
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So, it's your opinion that basically this is a nothinburger for the Average Joe?


For occasional seller, absolutely.

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I just know from life experience that when the media makes a big deal about something, there's usually a reason behind it.


Yeah like all the Trump Russia shite that ended up being completely made up
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 3:42 pm to
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It is and will always be a war on small business / middle class because that’s the threat to the authoritarians.
Agree that it will always be a war on the middle class, but I don't believe it's because it is a threat to authoritarians. I believe it's because that's where the authoritarians can squeeze the most out of without fear of retribution.

I mean, they sure as hell ain't squeezing nothing out of major corporations without a major battle on their hands. And there's nothing to squeeze out of the poor.

They can bully the middle class because it has far fewer resources to defend itself individually.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 3:43 pm to
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I just know from life experience that when the media makes a big deal about something, there's usually a reason behind it.



Yeah like all the Trump Russia shite that ended up being completely made up
Or any of the other scripted distractions.
This post was edited on 8/20/22 at 3:45 pm
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