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re: Just the IRS practicing taking down a landscaper at gunpoint.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 10:44 am to CAD703X
Posted on 8/20/22 at 10:44 am to CAD703X
Those are scary. Not only because the eye arrgh ess is going after a guy cutting grass for cash but those kids are going to be mowed down when they try to arrest the wrong guy weedeating for a living
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 10:49 am to Mingo Was His NameO
The only time I have ever seen an IRS agent's weapon was when I had a meeting with her and a client. She was a big fat woman with a bad attitude. She walked into my conference room and slammed her badge and gun down on the conference table. In 1000s of meetings with the IRS that's the only time I've seen that happen. She lasted about one year at the agency. I assume she was a PITA for everyone she worked around too. She was a real bitch.
99.9% of the agents I've worked with have been decent people just trying to do their jobs - most of them are actually pretty helpful.
99.9% of the agents I've worked with have been decent people just trying to do their jobs - most of them are actually pretty helpful.
This post was edited on 8/20/22 at 10:53 am
Posted on 8/20/22 at 10:51 am to cable
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The only time I have ever seen an IRS agent's weapon was when I had a meeting with her and a client. She was a big fat woman with a bad attitude. She walked into my conference room and slammed her badge and gun down on the conference table. In 1000s of meetings with the IRS that's the only time I've seen that happen. She lasted about one year at the agency.
Don't tell the plant workers that get a W2 and do their shite on TurboTax that. According to them, IRS agents are going to be doing no knock warrants on landscapers and grandma's.
And they're positive about that.
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99.9% of the agents I've worked with have been decent people just trying to do their jobs - most of them are actually pretty helpful
Don't get me wrong, I've worked with some real idiots, but they weren't bad people or trying to be dicks. They just weren't very smart
This post was edited on 8/20/22 at 10:59 am
Posted on 8/20/22 at 11:04 am to Mingo Was His NameO
If you don't pay your taxes - and I've had clients that just made shite up on their tax returns and got audited - you're going to owe the money. Are there ways to take care of that tax debt? Sure - but if you frick around with the IRS you'll probably find out. Most likely, the worst thing that will happen to you is you'll have to pay some penalties and interest, but it's not like you didn't know what you were doing in the first place. I have yet to see a client - even the worst ones - arrested, sent to prison or executed - and I've seen some really bad stuff.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 11:06 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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I don't think they should need guns either, but you acting like they're going to be executing small business owners is just as absurd
They’ll kill someone accidentally for sure. I don’t think they’re being sent to murder people
Posted on 8/20/22 at 11:07 am to Upperdecker
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They’ll kill someone accidentally for sure
If that's the barometer, we need to get rid of all guns everywhere
Posted on 8/20/22 at 11:09 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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f that's the barometer, we need to get rid of all guns everywhere
There’s reasons for private gun ownership and for law enforcement and military usage. IRS tax code enforcement shouldn’t qualify for using guns
Posted on 8/20/22 at 11:10 am to Upperdecker
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They’ll kill someone accidentally for sure. I don’t think they’re being sent to murder people
I've probably dealt with more IRS agents than anyone on this board (Mingo might be tied - he seems to have some experience) but I have only seen a firearm once in my entire career and the person washed out pretty quickly. I don't think that kind of behavior is encouraged at the agency. Maybe things will change - I have no idea - but up to now the stuff in that video is pure fantasy. Let's all just calm down.
As far as I know (based on a entire career dealing with this stuff) the IRS is not breaking your door down and hauling you away in cuffs. Unless there is some other underlying crime that is much more serious - then they'll throw the book at you.
This post was edited on 8/20/22 at 11:12 am
Posted on 8/20/22 at 11:14 am to cable
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he IRS is not breaking your door down and hauling you away in cuffs
No, but they'll force you to pay taxes on anything you profit from, even ebay sales.
That's the issue. They're going to be proactive and harass the shite out of the average person regardless of what they claim.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 11:15 am to cable
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As far as I know (based on a entire career dealing with this stuff) the IRS is not breaking your door down and hauling you away in cuffs.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 11:17 am to RogerTheShrubber
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they'll force you to pay taxes on anything you profit from, even ebay sales.
Well that is the law....
Posted on 8/20/22 at 11:17 am to Upperdecker
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They’ll kill someone accidentally for sure
Yep, the last person I want carrying a gun is a true believing accountant.
This post was edited on 8/20/22 at 11:21 am
Posted on 8/20/22 at 11:20 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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Well that is the law....
My problem with that is that people don't really have records for their basis on most things sold on Ebay for small amounts. Really most of the crap sold on Ebay now comes from China - so how are they going to enforce these rules on those sellers? It just seems like a waste of time to me - they should have just kept the old rules in place.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 11:22 am to cable
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It just seems like a waste of time to me -
True believers don't think that money is yours. The average guy is a threat to BigGov, evidently.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 11:28 am to cable
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so how are they going to enforce these rules on those sellers?
They said they weren't for one thing.
And despite your nearly religious level belief, most of these people are reasonable. If you sell an iPad and some old clothes on eBay around the $600 mark, they aren't going to assess you if you don't have receipts for those as that's clearly under your cost basis.
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they should have just kept the old rules in place
I agree, but the chicken little shite is stupid
This post was edited on 8/20/22 at 11:29 am
Posted on 8/20/22 at 11:33 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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And despite your nearly religious level belief
It's not religious
It's based on a career of dealing with these things. Who wants to get a 1099 for selling an old grill on Ebay? It's silly and onerous. There should be a transaction limitation - like if you sell fewer than 5 items in a year. The $600 rule is ridiculous. I'm surprised it passed. quote:
I agree, but the chicken little shite is stupid
Agreed - none of that stuff is going to happen
This post was edited on 8/20/22 at 11:34 am
Posted on 8/20/22 at 11:34 am to CAD703X
Biden's Administration has been trying to get any government agency to push its agenda or rid of its rivals.
From using OSHA to enforce vaccine mandates, DOJ/ FBI to attack concerned parents at school board meetings, DOE to block federal dollars to schools that don't push a transgender policy.
This weaponizing of the IRS will be used exactly the same way. No one believes the new IRS will enforce/ harass in a fair way.
From using OSHA to enforce vaccine mandates, DOJ/ FBI to attack concerned parents at school board meetings, DOE to block federal dollars to schools that don't push a transgender policy.
This weaponizing of the IRS will be used exactly the same way. No one believes the new IRS will enforce/ harass in a fair way.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 11:59 am to CAD703X
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Simple: they can now come armed into your house with the blessing of the government.
Any attempt to stop them and you're looking at a life sentence.
Hopefully some people do though. I am not really following the scenario in the op though. Is the intent to arrest people prior to notifying them of any wrong doing? Is thus after numerous attempts to contact the person and resolve a potential issue? Don't get me wrong, I hope the next president immediately lays off exactly 87k irs personnel. The general process of most government crap is to give a warning of sorts, slap a fine, and then potentially arrest. Are we now suddenly going to be arrested because something on taxes was files incorrectly? It certainly appears that way with a massive increase in budget and an additional 87k personnel. Damn, we have some serious dipshits in congress. Who the gell doesn't look at something like that and scrutinize the hell out of it.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 12:29 pm to cable
quote:Then why was that a key element of the video? Why are they wearing vests and carrying training firearms? Why was the “subject” armed?
… the IRS is not breaking your door down and hauling you away in cuffs.
You are saying one thing and I trust and respect your experience. But the training/recruitment class is portraying something completely different.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 12:29 pm to Steadyhands
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Are we now suddenly going to be arrested because something on taxes was files incorrectly? It certainly appears that way
If you are a total moron that operates off of propaganda and talking points
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