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re: Just lost 16 lbs in 3 weeks!

Posted on 7/9/20 at 3:25 pm to
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 3:25 pm to
[img]at the peak of my amateur cycling career i would go for a hard ride both sat and sun in excess of 100 miles each day including hill climbs and street sign sprints and would chug a couple gallons of water and literally only eat a handful of nuts the rest of the day.[/img]

That is so much bullshite.

I burn 7000-8000 calories on a solo century (no drafting) on relatively flat ground at 18-20mph, something like the Assualt on Mt. Mitchell I burn over 13,000.

There is literally no way a cyclist can do two "hard" centuries on back to back days with nothing but a handful of nuts as a recovery from the first day. Their glycogen would be so low the second morning they would have trouble rolling out of bed.

The average cyclist doing a century will consume 2500-3000 calories DURING the ride and 4000 or more in loading and recovery.
Posted by AboveGroundPool
the basin
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 3:28 pm to
I cut 11 lbs doing keto, 211 down to 200 and hit a plateau. Got off keto and started carb cycling and cut 7 more lbs.
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 3:31 pm
Posted by moester75
Anne Arundel County, MD
Member since Oct 2018
1544 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 3:31 pm to
You have been candid as frick so I’ll will be. I’m 6’2 273 pounds. I will not be a 300 pounder I’ll choose self liquidation first. I know a lotta OT snobs will laugh at drawing a line from 270 to 300 a fat frick is a fat frick but I’ve gained a hundred pounds since 1996. Got out of the Corps at 6’2 170. Frick Keto but I’m impressed you’re motivated.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
99759 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 3:31 pm to
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Feels good

Cocaine has the effect.
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lost 16 lbs in 3 weeks

Cocaine has the effect too.

I see a pattern.


I guess I’d have to start doing that every day rather than occasionally cause it didn’t keep me from gaining weight in the first place
Posted by drizztiger
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 3:32 pm to
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Just lost 16 lbs in 3 weeks!
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I weighed 292 today! My goal is to get back to 275-280
That's the initial loss. You will hit plateaus with the weight loss. Just push through it, try to stay in ketosis. Use strips initially, they're not expensive.
This post was edited on 7/10/20 at 2:11 am
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 3:34 pm to
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Bad:
Rice
Pasta
Bread
Fried foods

Corn
Potatoes
Beans
Excessive fruits



why i prefer fasting. I love rice and potatoes too much
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
99759 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 3:41 pm to
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what type of food is typical in the keto diet?


Low carb high fat.

Basically nothing fried, no pastas, rice, potatoes. Low sugar intake.

Can eat all the meat you want. Eat leafy veggies, and high fat stuff like butter, sour cream, etc.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
99759 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 3:42 pm to
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Congrats. When you go back to eating you will gain 20lbs in 2 weeks


My intention is to drop the weight and feel better then start back in the gym before I change eating habits so I don’t gain it back
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
99759 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 3:43 pm to
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Just curious, why no bourbon? If you’re not mixing soda with it, it should be fine.


Bourbons has a few carbs per serving vodka has 0.

If I only drank a couple drinks I’d be fine with bourbon but for example Saturday night I drank 3/4 of a half gallon of vodka. I can do the same with bourbon
Posted by CAD703X
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:19 pm to
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That is so much bullshite.

I burn 7000-8000 calories on a solo century (no drafting) on relatively flat ground at 18-20mph, something like the Assualt on Mt. Mitchell I burn over 13,000.

There is literally no way a cyclist can do two "hard" centuries on back to back days with nothing but a handful of nuts as a recovery from the first day. Their glycogen would be so low the second morning they would have trouble rolling out of bed.

The average cyclist doing a century will consume 2500-3000 calories DURING the ride and 4000 or more in loading and recovery.
ok

Wanna analyze my strava data? I had both a hr monitor and power meter going.

Congrats for completing the assault on mt Mitchell. Always wanted to do that. Closest I came was the cherohala ride (which also goes up tail of the dragon) and I ever so briefly had a top 10 finish on the cherohala skyway climb itself in strava.

I also did the sunrise century in 3:51 which is one of my proudest accomplishments but of course we were running a 2 man pace line most of the way. Got really difficult around mile 75 when we were down to about 6 people.

And yes that's really how I ate. I was full atkins the whole time I raced and it didn't hurt me from being competitive.
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 4:26 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:34 pm to
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Wanna analyze my strava data? I had both a hr monitor and power meter going.


Strava doesn't tell me anything about your caloric intake.

There is simply no way someone can ride 2 back to back centuries "hard" with just eating a handful of nuts post 1st ride. Christoph Strasser probably couldn't do it. I mean be serious that sort of caloric deficit is horrible for endurance events. I eat about 2000 calories above my BMR to cover just my evening 40k ride and that is just a 19-20mph roll.

I am of the mind a pure Adkins diet is a poor choice for cyclist (World Tour Pro's nutritionists agree). In a 40k TT I am looking at consuming 60-70g of Carbs during the race. Post ride meal is usually 40g of protein and 60-80 grams of carbs.

Nutrition is ever advancing but it has worked for me for over 35 years. I don't watch fat intake too much but the majority of my calories are in carbs.

Have only missed The Assualt 3 times since 1985. Having lived most of that time in the city it starts in I have ridden the route maybe 150 times and the climbing portion from Marion to the top something like 200 more times. I am not really much of an endurance cyclist or climber but I do it once in a while, I am mainly crits and TTs.

This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 5:15 pm
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:36 pm to
You were a big boy
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:38 pm to
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Saturday night I drank 3/4 of a half gallon of vodka.


Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
82607 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:42 pm to
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why i prefer fasting. I love rice and potatoes too much


Potatoes are one of the best bang for your buck foods.

These on the bottom left 4 potatoes are 110cal.

Posted by Demshoes
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Member since Aug 2015
10659 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:43 pm to
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cut out all ...beer


Unfortunately, this is a non-starter.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
82607 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:44 pm to
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I guess I’d have to start doing that every day rather than occasionally cause it didn’t keep me from gaining weight in the first place



Really? A Friday night with coke involved usually leads to someone not being hungry on Saturday. So you have a built in day of fasting. If you eat relatively healthy generally speaking, a full day fast can do a lot to bump weight loss.

If you overeat in general, then yeah recreational partying ain't gonna cut it. Gotta pump those numbers up.
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 4:56 pm
Posted by MeridianDog
Home on the range
Member since Nov 2010
14539 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:52 pm to
About 5 years back, I went from 240 to 185 in about 6 months doing a high protein - no carbs diet. I was walking a lot and that helped. Here is why I posted. I would plateau from time to time, and when I did I would for one day, eat only a can of vienna sausage. Then I would go right back into my typical 1 - 2 pounds drop every week. I think the fat in the Vienna Sausages is what would push me back into a loss pattern.

I had managed to hold my loss for a long time, but during this crap, gained much of it back. So, I am on keto now and the pounds are slowly coming back off. My motivation was my jeans got much too tight and 5 years back, I swore I would never buy a larger size jeans again.
Posted by Cdawg
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Member since Sep 2003
61385 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:55 pm to
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read this to understand why eat less move more doesnt work. there are parts.

Did you actually read through that?

It's not what they're saying at all. In fact, they are using potato logic. It comparing an apple to a door knob.

They compared a person in excellent shape can walk all day and burn the same amount of calories as a fat lard arse siting in a chair. That was the study to prove people burn the same amount of calories and thus exercise is irrelevant in obesity.
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:58 pm to
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They compared a person in excellent shape can walk all day and burn the same amount of calories as a fat lard arse siting in a chair. That was the study to prove people burn the same amount of calories and thus exercise is irrelevant in obesity.



Please tell me it was funded by The same people that think BLM is a non-racist organization...
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 5:00 pm to
Proud of you. See what putting down the Dave’s Triple can do?
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