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re: Judge vacates Adnan Syed's conviction and orders a new trial
Posted on 6/30/16 at 4:28 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Posted on 6/30/16 at 4:28 pm to JohnnyKilroy
quote:Except for the potential serial killer.
it makes even less sense for any other potential suspect.
The case is interesting not so much for actual guilt or innocence, but for the confluence of events, many outside of the individual's control, that lead to a conviction that by any objective view should never have happened.
Posted on 6/30/16 at 4:29 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
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How are they going to have a trial 16 years after the fact?
There have been thousands of trials in this country for murders years and decades after the fact.
There is no statute of limitations on murder.
Posted on 6/30/16 at 4:29 pm to NewIberiaHaircut
I like to think he's not guilty but 
Posted on 6/30/16 at 4:30 pm to JBeam
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After all of this. IDK how you can be 100% that he did it.
I never said I was...what are you people reading?
I said I think he did it but should not have been convicted.
Posted on 6/30/16 at 4:31 pm to JBeam
Think of all the potential suspects in this case. All of those make less sense than Adnan.
I'm not 100% on it, but Occam's razor and all that.
I'm not 100% on it, but Occam's razor and all that.
Posted on 6/30/16 at 4:32 pm to TheCaterpillar
If based on the sum of the evidence in that podcast, you reach the opinion that he's guilty, you must have more info or some supernatural intuition.
They could have convicted Jay and even Don (hyperbole for effect) with the amount of evidence presented.
They could have convicted Jay and even Don (hyperbole for effect) with the amount of evidence presented.
Posted on 6/30/16 at 4:33 pm to Ice Cold
quote:How does Jay know so much if she was killed by a random serial killer drifting through?
Except for the potential serial killer.
Posted on 6/30/16 at 4:36 pm to JohnnyKilroy
I'll be honest. After listening to audio of his lawyer in the first trial, I would have convicted just so I didn't have to hear her screech. How she was a successful trial attorney, I'll never know.
Posted on 6/30/16 at 4:42 pm to TheCaterpillar
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His phone being with Jay has not been explained.
Sure it has. Phones weren't allowed at school so he left it in his car. Common practice then.
Not saying this proves he was there or not. Just proves he didn't have to be there.
My vote would have been Not Guilty based on the two podcasts I listened to. I'm not sure he's innocent but there's more than enough reasonable doubt for me to convict.
Posted on 6/30/16 at 4:56 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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before you mention Stephen A. Smith or Skip Bayless, remember that Nancy Grace drove a woman to suicide.
Hold on, Nancy Grace did what?
Posted on 6/30/16 at 5:01 pm to TheCaterpillar
quote:this
While I think he did it, there was absolutely not enough evidence to prove he did it.
Posted on 6/30/16 at 5:06 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
LINK
Tragic situation, and the mother clearly fricked up in this instance, but Grace went on and on about how the charges brought against the mother weren't enough and that she was guilty of murdering her child.
Tragic situation, and the mother clearly fricked up in this instance, but Grace went on and on about how the charges brought against the mother weren't enough and that she was guilty of murdering her child.
Posted on 6/30/16 at 5:17 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Holy frick, what an awful person.
Posted on 6/30/16 at 5:26 pm to UpToPar
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I'll be honest. After listening to audio of his lawyer in the first trial, I would have convicted just so I didn't have to hear her screech. How she was a successful trial attorney, I'll never know.
She ended up getting bust, and I think disbarred, so she was not that good.
Posted on 6/30/16 at 6:59 pm to hendersonshands
Crazy, it was clear to me that he killed her.
Only question is Jay's involvement or lack thereof, but Adnon was definitely guilty.
I can pick apart any case if you try hard enough, but here u had a clear motive and a first-hand witness, seems pretty open-and-shut
Only question is Jay's involvement or lack thereof, but Adnon was definitely guilty.
I can pick apart any case if you try hard enough, but here u had a clear motive and a first-hand witness, seems pretty open-and-shut
This post was edited on 6/30/16 at 7:05 pm
Posted on 6/30/16 at 7:00 pm to hendersonshands
That Arabian SOB is GUILTY
Posted on 6/30/16 at 7:20 pm to hendersonshands
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He looks guilty in this photo
That cop on the left looks pretty guilty too.
Posted on 6/30/16 at 8:16 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Jays story is completely false other than the body disposal. The cell data, etc. just doesn't match.
You know he changed his story on the body disposal in Jan 2015?
Posted on 6/30/16 at 8:19 pm to GRTiger
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I think he's innocent.
How are people saying they think he's guilty "but there was not nearly enough evidence?" Some clairvoyant MFs in here.
There was more evidence to suggest he COULD NOT have done this than evidence that one could even use to lean towards guilt.
That's a perfectly resonable position to hold. Guilty on preponderance, not beyond reasonable doubt.
I don't think he did it factually or to a reasonable legal standard though.
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