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re: Judge orders Iberville to stop deployment of AquaDams along Manchac Road
Posted on 5/20/21 at 12:34 pm to Geauxlden Eagle
Posted on 5/20/21 at 12:34 pm to Geauxlden Eagle
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Most of these have been underway for 40 years
The Comite Diversion Canal sure as hell took long enough.
But I was referring to the recent outlay from about 2018 or so. It was supposed to be done in late 2021, but was probably delayed by lawsuits and Covid. It involved dredging, lining some canals that were prone to blockages in concrete, and creating some public overflow/retention areas along Ward Creek and Bayou Fountain.
I think Livingston got some federal cash to clean up some things on their end, but I'm not sure if anything happened there.
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Posted on 5/20/21 at 12:35 pm to upgrayedd
This could all be solved if Ascension Parish declares war on Iberville Parish to kick Iberville Parish off the east bank of the river.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 12:37 pm to The Boat
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This could all be solved if Ascension Parish declares war on Iberville Parish to kick Iberville Parish off the east bank of the river.
EBR=Germany
AP=USSR
IP=Poland
Posted on 5/20/21 at 12:37 pm to udtiger
quote:What was the original filing?
a JDC (regardless of parish) is a court of general jurisdiction.
he has this authority.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 12:38 pm to blueboxer1119
Ourso is cut from the same cloth as any other La politician. He is the leader of an underdog parish who is grandstanding to score cheap political points.
Iberville has bled people and businesses to its neighbors, especially WBR, for decades. Compare the Plaquemine of today versus the 80s, 90s, or even early 00s. EBR/AP are no doubt guilty of poor planning, but Ourso would 100% encourage similar development on Iberville's portion of the Miss flood plain, if and when a bridge is ever built there. They're already doing it on the eastbank in St. Gabriel. It's laughable to think he'd pass on the level of population/revenue growth AP and South EBR have enjoyed in the name of "protecting his constituents."
Iberville has bled people and businesses to its neighbors, especially WBR, for decades. Compare the Plaquemine of today versus the 80s, 90s, or even early 00s. EBR/AP are no doubt guilty of poor planning, but Ourso would 100% encourage similar development on Iberville's portion of the Miss flood plain, if and when a bridge is ever built there. They're already doing it on the eastbank in St. Gabriel. It's laughable to think he'd pass on the level of population/revenue growth AP and South EBR have enjoyed in the name of "protecting his constituents."
Posted on 5/20/21 at 12:38 pm to The Boat
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This could all be solved if Ascension Parish declares war on Iberville Parish to kick Iberville Parish off the east bank of the river.
Let's trade. St. Gabriel for Donaldsonville
Posted on 5/20/21 at 12:40 pm to Tigeralum2008
That was going to be my next post. I'm sure Ascension Parish would love to dump that shite hole Donaldsonville. They would do a trade straight up right now for their land on the west bank for Iberville's land on the east bank.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 12:44 pm to The Boat
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That was going to be my next post. I'm sure Ascension Parish would love to dump that shite hole Donaldsonville. They would do a trade straight up right now for their land on the west bank for Iberville's land on the east bank.
Never quite understood why the parishes were divided the way they were
Posted on 5/20/21 at 12:51 pm to X123F45
It was about profit.
still is
still is
Posted on 5/20/21 at 12:51 pm to Tigeralum2008
Oil and gas revenues.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 12:52 pm to X123F45
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I just believe in protecting the pragmatic rather than the foolish.
Wouldn't the foolish be the ones who built houses on grade in a flood plain? I moved into my new home over a year ago. Before we started building, we checked to see if it was in an area that required flood insurance. It wasn't. I then made sure the area didn't flood in 2016. It didn't. I did my due diligence. Are the people in Spanish Lake under the assumption they are not building in a flood zone or are not located in a flood zone?
This post was edited on 5/20/21 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 5/20/21 at 12:58 pm to dewster
But no one in EBR bitches when they use these water dams to hold back the water on I-10 or Bluff Road that would go into Spanish Lake because EBR first in all things.
In fact it is just the opposite, they bitch and complain when the water dams can't be put in because of the flow.
In fact it is just the opposite, they bitch and complain when the water dams can't be put in because of the flow.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 1:04 pm to shawnlsu
Lj said get offline
Posted on 5/20/21 at 1:08 pm to dewster
quote:Not to mention their economy is drop in the bucket compared to the other two.
He's doing this to protect a handful of cheap, shitty homes that built in the floodway without any restriction from Ibberville parish...at the costs of thousands of people in two neighboring parishes.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 1:11 pm to goofball
He is not blocking Bayou Manchac.
The water still can go into the Bayou Manchac down to the Amite River. Unfortunately, it is a slow process.
EBRP, could have bought the land owned by Brec on Burbank to make a runoff area for situations like this to help slow down the amount of water going into Bayou Manchac. Brec, chose to sell the land for development.
The parish could have also controlled development in a known flood plain.
We didn’t which is our fault not the parishes South of us.
EBRP metro council is responsible for this mess as they could have put projects into place to help slow down the water runoff before it made it to Bayou Manchac.
Guess what after the 2016 flood no one did anything to push projects on this side of the parish.
At one time this area was swamp and agricultural fields which flooded during high water periods on the bayous.
All Mitch is doing is keep the water from Bayou Manchac from coming into his parish.
I do miss the old days that the Spanish lake was a flooded swamp. I had friends that lived down Bayou Paul Road and we would go fish frogs on the grass flats in Spanish lake in the winter catching 1 lb bass with ease. They had a little bar and little launch at the locks back then.
The water still can go into the Bayou Manchac down to the Amite River. Unfortunately, it is a slow process.
EBRP, could have bought the land owned by Brec on Burbank to make a runoff area for situations like this to help slow down the amount of water going into Bayou Manchac. Brec, chose to sell the land for development.
The parish could have also controlled development in a known flood plain.
We didn’t which is our fault not the parishes South of us.
EBRP metro council is responsible for this mess as they could have put projects into place to help slow down the water runoff before it made it to Bayou Manchac.
Guess what after the 2016 flood no one did anything to push projects on this side of the parish.
At one time this area was swamp and agricultural fields which flooded during high water periods on the bayous.
All Mitch is doing is keep the water from Bayou Manchac from coming into his parish.
I do miss the old days that the Spanish lake was a flooded swamp. I had friends that lived down Bayou Paul Road and we would go fish frogs on the grass flats in Spanish lake in the winter catching 1 lb bass with ease. They had a little bar and little launch at the locks back then.
This post was edited on 5/20/21 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 5/20/21 at 1:12 pm to johnnyrocket
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He is not blocking Bayou Manchac.
Never said he was.
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The parish could have also controlled development in a known flood plain.
We didn’t which is our fault not the parishes South of us.
They are holding a natural swamp that has been a floodway for a century hostage....to protect homes that built in a literal swamp. Spanish Lake is a natural water retention area that holds water until it can drain down Bayou Manchac.
This post was edited on 5/20/21 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 5/20/21 at 1:17 pm to goofball
1970’s and even early 90’s that road next to manchac acted as a levee. They closed the locks by the boat launch and that area flooded from rains not flood water coming in from EBRP.
Reason the bayous overflowed their banks into the agricultural fields and swamps on the EBRP side.
When the parish allowed a swamp land to be developed this is when the problems started.
Is Iberville Parish the issue or EBRP?
Seems like it is our fault and we are pushing our water runoff on other parishes.
Reason the bayous overflowed their banks into the agricultural fields and swamps on the EBRP side.
When the parish allowed a swamp land to be developed this is when the problems started.
Is Iberville Parish the issue or EBRP?
Seems like it is our fault and we are pushing our water runoff on other parishes.
This post was edited on 5/20/21 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 5/20/21 at 1:18 pm to X123F45
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I'd say cry about it... But that moisture would just add to your dilemma.
im not the one whining about a flooded 80 acres. I dont want this to get between us, we have always been cordial, and i would like to come check out that 80 acres to hunt :wink: But you have to see that you are scorned by an act that has happened to you.... that same act is what you are applauding. This post was edited on 5/20/21 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 5/20/21 at 1:19 pm to goofball
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And there's definitely no way anyone should be able to block off a floodway or a swamp and risk flooding thousands of people uphill without regional approval under any circumstance.
So I feel like some of these definitions have become a bit muddy. My understanding is that:
- Bayou Fountain flows southeast from EBR to Ascension (Bayou Manchac).
- Bayou Manchac flows east from Iberville (near Spanish Lake) to Ascension (Amite River).
- Spanish Lake absorbs backwater flooding from Bayou Manchac when Manchac gets high.
Is this correct? Because if so, it seems more accurate to say that EBR is “upstream” of Spanish Lake while Ascension is really “downstream” of Spanish Lake.
I get that the area around Spanish Lake is a natural floodplain, but if Ascension’s actions have reduced the capacity of Bayou Manchac to drain effectively into the Amite - or if they have caused Manchac to absorb more water due to elimination of other pathways - you can’t ignore that aspect of the situation.
It’s a regional problem as everyone has said, and I also agree that simply deploying aquadams and saying “not my problem” is the wrong approach. At the same time, part of me wonders whether that’s the only way that any meaningful improvement happens over the long term.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 1:21 pm to goofball
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They are holding a natural swamp that has been a floodway for a century hostage....to protect homes that built in a literal swamp.
Please stop lying. The houses will flood regardless at the rate.
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Spanish Lake is a natural water retention area that holds water until it can drain down Bayou Manchac.
So was dutchtown.
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