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re: Josh Duggar arrested for child porn

Posted on 4/30/21 at 4:16 pm to
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 4/30/21 at 4:16 pm to
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When Jim Bob was in the Arkansas state legislature, he served on the Corrections committee. Wouldn’t surprise me it has enough pull to get the police to look the other way at his family. How many other sons does he have?
IIRC the cop that questioned Josh for the diddling his sisters incident... Was arrested for child porn later on. You can bet JimBob got some pull to let Josh go to their fake Church boot camp for lashings.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 4/30/21 at 4:21 pm to
Received in May 2019, and I guess stayed in possession until a fed raid in November 2019. Not sure if raid was about this or if they found it while looking for something else (feds), but outside of finding the porn more recently and just including when it was received why wait this long to charge him? COVID shouldn’t matter if child porn and alleged history could equate to kids being harmed.

Even if large scale federal investigation that may take time I would think they would be charging more than just him.
This post was edited on 4/30/21 at 4:26 pm
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/30/21 at 4:21 pm to
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I think it still comes down to the parents allowing the kids to raise another that caused this. Again, I’ll be shocked if Josh is the only one in the family guilty of his personal crimes.


I think you are dramatically overselling the role of household structure in sexual deviancy. I think 99% of men/boys are not predisposed to molesting their sisters or being sexually attracted to children when they are adults. But when you spin the wheel and hit on a screwed up kid who is broke that way, then you have to take strict precautions (assuming you recognize it). And yeah, allowing them to parent those kids would be throwing gas on a fire. But like I said, 99% of the time there is no fire. I refuse to believe we are all simply one bad set of parents away from being child molesters. I can't even image getting an erection in that situation and my parents pretty much ignored me.

Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 4/30/21 at 4:27 pm to
Were you brought up in a house of 19 siblings and shared a bedroom with your younger sister and were never allowed the privacy to jerkoff once and a while when you hit puberty?
Posted by Squid
Goodlettsville
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 4/30/21 at 4:27 pm to
Agreed. And part of this reaction is religion haters gleefully piling on.
Posted by Squid
Goodlettsville
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Posted on 4/30/21 at 4:28 pm to
Were you?
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 4:30 pm to
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Were you?


No, thank God. But there’s plenty of psychological evidence that deviant sexual behavior is at least correlated with certain parental strategies.
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
3888 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 4:35 pm to
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Were you brought up in a house of 19 siblings and shared a bedroom with your younger sister and were never allowed the privacy to jerkoff once and a while when you hit puberty?



No, but I still wouldn't have done it. Certain behaviors just go against the grain of basic human psychology.

Walking a mile in Jeffrey Dahmers shoes would not have led me to to kidnap, rape, torture and canibalize young boys. I'm not wired that way. And if I recall he came from a normal suburban family, so it didn't matter how he was raised either.

Nature vs. nurture. Nurture matters but for some things nature just dominates.
Posted by rebel cat
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 4/30/21 at 4:36 pm to
Who's Josh Duggar? Anyway frick him and his smug mug shot.
Posted by Squid
Goodlettsville
Member since Sep 2006
1243 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 4:36 pm to
Correlation is not causation.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 4/30/21 at 4:36 pm to
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She’s the loose end here. She deserves our sympathy and knows what her family is is fricked up. And she’s the eldest outside of Josh and we know Josh molested her.

She's not, the eldest daughter is the one who's unmarried that actually raised all the little kids while the mom kept easing them out.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146805 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 4:37 pm to
when you look up this story. the media take complete and utter joy in stating, 'far right ultra conservative Christians.' people hate on Christianity and it is a despicable political trait. but when the religion is a cult it is deserving.

the entire point of their large families and no sex before marriage has two families; the Duggars & the Willis family, plagued with pedophilia and incest.

this isn't Christianity, it is a grotesque cult.
Posted by MrCoolBeans
Coolsville
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 4/30/21 at 4:40 pm to
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this isn't Christianity, it is a grotesque cult.

Well... tomato, tamatto
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 4:42 pm to
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the entire point of their large families and no sex before marriage has two families; the Duggars & the Willis family, plagued with pedophilia and incest.



I don’t really know much about the Willis family. Did they have a TV show?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108416 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 4:46 pm to
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I think you are dramatically overselling the role of household structure in sexual deviancy.


I don’t think I am.

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I think 99% of men/boys are not predisposed to molesting their sisters or being sexually attracted to children when they are adults.


Because 99% of boys aren’t raised to raise their own siblings and their parents aren’t hands off while openly judging everyone else. Again, the Lord of the Flies is accurate what kids will devolve towards left without an authority figure. People are naturally Assyrians without morals being implemented in them.

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But when you spin the wheel and hit on a screwed up kid who is broke that way, then you have to take strict precautions (assuming you recognize it). And yeah, allowing them to parent those kids would be throwing gas on a fire. But like I said, 99% of the time there is no fire.


Then I encourage you to look into the foster care system. It’s way lower than 99%.

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I refuse to believe we are all simply one bad set of parents away from being child molesters. I can't even image getting an erection in that situation and my parents pretty much ignored me.


You can’t imagine that because you were raised properly. It should be unthinkable to you, but then look through history. Had you been born in Assyria, Tenochtitlan, or Mongolia you would have in all likelihood been as vile as they were. Josh Duggar was raised to see women as breeding factories that are less than human and you can do whatever you please to them.

I once went to a wedding for a high school friend that fell into a similar sect of the Duggar’s beliefs. The groom had one vow (the classic to love as you both shall live). The bride on the other hand had like 10 where she vowed never to question her husband’s will, to do as her husband commands, and to never do or say anything that may disrespect her husband. It was for all intents and purposes a slave auction. Everyone who was sane left that wedding disgusted and if my sister (no pics) were asked to say those vows, I’d openly object in front of the congregation. This is the same material the Duggars are cut out of.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108416 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 4:48 pm to
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Agreed. And part of this reaction is religion haters gleefully piling on.


I’m Episcopalian. No it has to do with despising cults that use Christianity as a front for their sex cult.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146805 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 4:51 pm to
Willis Family-America's Got Talent

Willis Family Promo

Willis Family Show

The dad (bottom right) is in prison for raping his daughters. The earliest the oldest daughter remembers him raping her was 3 years old.



Oldest daughter speaks out
This post was edited on 4/30/21 at 4:56 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108416 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 4:51 pm to
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Walking a mile in Jeffrey Dahmers shoes would not have led me to to kidnap, rape, torture and canibalize young boys. I'm not wired that way. And if I recall he came from a normal suburban family, so it didn't matter how he was raised either.


Jeffrey Dahmer is an extreme statistical anomaly. Jeffrey Dahmer was clearly inherently evil no matter who he was raised by. I’m saying the way Josh and his siblings were raised encouraged Josh’s disgusting behavior whether his parents know it or not. Can’t say the same about Dahmer’s parents.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146805 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 5:13 pm to
look at the difference in the statements

Duggar family (Mom & Dad) statement

LINK

Sister Jinger statement

LINK
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 4/30/21 at 5:18 pm to
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But there’s plenty of psychological evidence that deviant sexual behavior is at least correlated with certain parental strategies.
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