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re: Josh Duggar arrested for child porn
Posted on 5/1/21 at 12:52 pm to Wolfhound45
Posted on 5/1/21 at 12:52 pm to Wolfhound45
no doubt the media loves to attack Christianity, as already stated...
when you look up this story. the media take complete and utter joy in stating, 'far right ultra conservative Christians.' people hate on Christianity and it is a despicable political trait. but when the religion is a cult it is deserving.
the entire point of their large families and no sex before marriage has two families; the Duggars & the Willis family, plagued with pedophilia and incest.
this isn't Christianity, it is a grotesque cult.
the media reporting on this as a political gotcha pisses me off. mostly because it can't be refuted that the Duggar's & Willis clan preach Christian values of no sex before marriage, and you can only kiss after marriage. but it's fine to have a mistress and frick porn pin ups girls roughly and choke them, *and* diddle their sisters.
And in the Willis' Clan case, molest & beat your 3 year old daughters...
you cannot deny the hypocrisy and defense of this; because Josh & generations of his and the Willis family reads a Bible...
this seems like generational abuse in a cult, not Christianity.
when you look up this story. the media take complete and utter joy in stating, 'far right ultra conservative Christians.' people hate on Christianity and it is a despicable political trait. but when the religion is a cult it is deserving.
the entire point of their large families and no sex before marriage has two families; the Duggars & the Willis family, plagued with pedophilia and incest.
this isn't Christianity, it is a grotesque cult.
the media reporting on this as a political gotcha pisses me off. mostly because it can't be refuted that the Duggar's & Willis clan preach Christian values of no sex before marriage, and you can only kiss after marriage. but it's fine to have a mistress and frick porn pin ups girls roughly and choke them, *and* diddle their sisters.
And in the Willis' Clan case, molest & beat your 3 year old daughters...
you cannot deny the hypocrisy and defense of this; because Josh & generations of his and the Willis family reads a Bible...
this seems like generational abuse in a cult, not Christianity.
This post was edited on 5/1/21 at 12:54 pm
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Posted on 5/1/21 at 12:59 pm to saintsfan22
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Why? She is an idiot. Just announced her 7th pregnancy
Yeah she's an idiot but she's been raised to be nothing but a babymaker.
Is there something wrong with that?
Posted on 5/1/21 at 12:59 pm to cajunangelle
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large families and no sex before marriage
I guess if we ignore that the Bible promotes large families and no sex before marriage, you have a point.
Posted on 5/1/21 at 1:24 pm to cajunangelle
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no doubt the media loves to attack Christianity, as already stated...
when you look up this story. the media take complete and utter joy in stating, 'far right ultra conservative Christians.' people hate on Christianity and it is a despicable political trait. but when the religion is a cult it is deserving.
the entire point of their large families and no sex before marriage has two families; the Duggars & the Willis family, plagued with pedophilia and incest.
this isn't Christianity, it is a grotesque cult.
the media reporting on this as a political gotcha pisses me off. mostly because it can't be refuted that the Duggar's & Willis clan preach Christian values of no sex before marriage, and you can only kiss after marriage. but it's fine to have a mistress and frick porn pin ups girls roughly and choke them, *and* diddle their sisters.
And in the Willis' Clan case, molest & beat your 3 year old daughters...
you cannot deny the hypocrisy and defense of this; because Josh & generations of his and the Willis family reads a Bible...
this seems like generational abuse in a cult, not Christianity.
Exactly. We’re not attacking Christianity at large here. You’re a fool if you think these people are actual Christians. They use Christianity as a front to cover for their deranged sex cult. They aren’t interested in God, they are interested in lust and power. They see corruption everywhere except within. A prime example of this is Disney’s most despicable villain.
Posted on 5/1/21 at 1:29 pm to cajunangelle
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Josh choked and spit on the hooker and called her a dirty unworthy slut
Well, he also told her she was really smart and pretty about 4 minutes later.
Posted on 5/1/21 at 1:30 pm to squid_hunt
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Josh Dugger is a creep and he has demonstrated that over and over. It shouldn't be a surprise to most everyone that this came about. It's terrible. I hope they throw the book at him. Claiming the whole family is molesting children is pretty stupid even for you.
We’ve got two members so far of the family. That’s starting a trend.
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As I said, calling the cops may have been the legal think to do. I can't imagine most people wanting to call the cops on their kid or that your kid going to jail would help in such a situation. You can get really pissed about how they handled it, but I'd like to see how most people would act in such a situation.
Personally I’d probably nearly beat my son to death and then disown him for doing that, but that’s just me.
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They don't have their kids primarily raising each other. They pick older kids to teach and help with the younger kids. You can paint it as creepy and loony if you want.
Because it is creepy and looney.
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Pretty sure large families living together and working together built civilization.
Every parent having 20 kids? You think that’d work out? If so, you’re a fricking moron. And back in the day people had lots of kids because half of them died.
Posted on 5/1/21 at 1:35 pm to squid_hunt
the Bible also calls out to lash out your eye rather then do the types of perversions Josh and the Willis family has.
a large family does not make anyone Christian or more pure than others.
Jim Bob Duggar is reported to forbid his eldest daughter from their family compound where she was raised-- unless he is home.
all because Jill's husband is a lawyer and questioned the contracts in the millions most likely, for the family to do reality shows.
Jim Bob sounds like a money hungry shyster that also flips million dollar homes. that's fine, but don't promote Christianity while he covered up molestation of his own daughters until a family friend exposed it. can we leave the Bible & Christianity out of it referring to these people?
I wouldn't defend Jim Bob's Christianity any more then some fake preacher wanting $1000 seed money because God said to give him your money.
Just because you have 19 kids it doesn't make you a Christian.
a large family does not make anyone Christian or more pure than others.
Jim Bob Duggar is reported to forbid his eldest daughter from their family compound where she was raised-- unless he is home.
all because Jill's husband is a lawyer and questioned the contracts in the millions most likely, for the family to do reality shows.
Jim Bob sounds like a money hungry shyster that also flips million dollar homes. that's fine, but don't promote Christianity while he covered up molestation of his own daughters until a family friend exposed it. can we leave the Bible & Christianity out of it referring to these people?
I wouldn't defend Jim Bob's Christianity any more then some fake preacher wanting $1000 seed money because God said to give him your money.
Just because you have 19 kids it doesn't make you a Christian.
Posted on 5/1/21 at 1:48 pm to cajunangelle
What a sick frick.
Hopefully he's been taken care of in GenPop.
Hopefully he's been taken care of in GenPop.
Posted on 5/1/21 at 1:52 pm to OMLandshark
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We’ve got two members so far of the family. That’s starting a trend.
We're counting the dad? Ok. Wrong reaction. Human response.
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Personally I’d probably nearly beat my son to death and then disown him for doing that, but that’s just me.
I hope I never have to find out.
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Because it is creepy and looney.
It's not. And it's not the source of all their problems either.
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Every parent having 20 kids? You think that’d work out?
I appreciate you acknowledging your real issue is that you think you should be able to tell others how many children to have or how to live. Makes it easier to dismiss you.
Posted on 5/1/21 at 1:53 pm to squid_hunt
This is gonna make for a really dark SVU episode in the near future.
Posted on 5/1/21 at 1:54 pm to squid_hunt
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We're counting the dad? Ok. Wrong reaction. Human response.
The father in law. Birds of a feather flock together.
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I appreciate you acknowledging your real issue is that you think you should be able to tell others how many children to have or how to live. Makes it easier to dismiss you.
No, I just have a basic understanding of economics.
Posted on 5/1/21 at 2:06 pm to OMLandshark
I think you’re trying to find explanations for his behavior that aren’t there. Sometimes, it’s as simple as he’s just a sick frick.
Posted on 5/1/21 at 2:06 pm to squid_hunt
quote:are you so mad thinking people are bashing Christianity (they aren't) that this quip that some laughed at went right over your head?
There are lots of people that consider Bill Gothard to be a good preacher. I don't know a lot about him. I've seen the stuff taking him down.
also you quoted Shark on the last page and proceeded to call me out in personal insults calling me a conspiracy theorist.
calm down, wow.
Posted on 5/1/21 at 2:11 pm to cajunangelle
quote:if the wife's family thinks this is ok in the name of religion...
along with his wife
That is super cultish.
Posted on 5/1/21 at 2:22 pm to cajunangelle
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the Bible also calls out to lash out your eye rather then do the types of perversions Josh and the Willis family has.
No it doesn't. You're making things up now.
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a large family does not make anyone Christian or more pure than others.
Or less.
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I wouldn't defend Jim Bob's Christianity any more then some fake preacher
I don't have to defend him. I'd rather hear something more concrete than his son is a creep and he tried to help him before I condemn him, though.
Posted on 5/1/21 at 2:24 pm to lsuwontonwrap
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Josh Duggar arrested for child porn
Why do we continue to tolerate these animals in our society? He’s already proven himself to be a pedo when he was diddling his little sisters. Did anyone think he was going to change? Honestly? These animals never change. They like to frick children. It’s in their nature. They’re never going to change. Either lock them in a 9x9 cell for the rest of their life; or better yet take them out somewhere an put a .45 slug in the base of their skull.
Posted on 5/1/21 at 2:25 pm to OMLandshark
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The father in law. Birds of a feather flock together.
Again, you're making a lot of accusations without a lot of evidence. I have a problem with that.
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No, I just have a basic understanding of economics.
Those allowances as a kid really paid off, huh?
Posted on 5/1/21 at 2:30 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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I think you’re trying to find explanations for his behavior that aren’t there. Sometimes, it’s as simple as he’s just a sick frick.
I really hope I’m wrong, but there’s way too much smoke for Josh to be the only fire as far as I can see.
Posted on 5/1/21 at 3:37 pm to OMLandshark
Bill Gothard is protected from being investigated any further after he resigned?
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Meeting up at homeschooling conventions
Anna met Josh in real life at an ATI homeschooling conference in 2006. The Advanced Training Institute is a project of Bill Gothard, a Christian minister whose teachings informed the Duggars’ and Kellers’ beliefs. In 2016, Gothard and other leaders were sued by 10 women for sexual abuse, harassment and cover-up.
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Bill Gothard, Christian counseling ministry leader with ties to TLC's Duggar family, target of sexual assault lawsuit by 10 women
Ten women filed a bombshell lawsuit Wednesday alleging decades of sexual assault and rape by the longtime leader of Christian homeschooling ministry, Bill Gothard, who preaches modesty among women and has ties to Republican politicians and the reality TV Duggar family.
The lawsuit is the latest development after numerous women who sought counseling at Gothard's Institute of Basic Life Principles, a prominent religious homeschooling ministry, came forward accusing the magnetic leader of sexual abuse, some of whom were minors at the time
The 81-year-old unmarried former president of the IBLP resigned from the ministry in 2014 after more than 30 women said they had been molested by him, according to the Washington Post, which first reported the story.
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The accounts, some of which were posted on a blog called Recovering Grace, come from the types of vulnerable women who would come to IBLP's training centers seeking bible study and counseling, many of them victims of incest by their fathers or older family members, or who had been sold into human trafficking.
In one account, a woman only identified as Jane Doe II, who was a victim of trafficking and was sent by her abusive father to one of IBLP's training centers in Indiana claims that she was forced to have sex with both Gothard and a 'biblical counselor," Kenneth Copley, in two separate instances.
This post was edited on 5/1/21 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 5/1/21 at 3:48 pm to cajunangelle
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Bill Gothard is protected from being investigated any further after he resigned?
Exactly. I know how these frickers operate. It’s not about religion, it’s about power, specifically over women and kids.
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