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Jobs report for July: 528,000 jobs added

Posted on 8/5/22 at 10:55 am
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51613 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 10:55 am
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Payrolls rise 528,000, more than double estimates

Hot jobs data bolsters case for 75 Bps Fed hike

Unemployment rate falls to 3.5% from 3.6%

Labor-force participation rate drops

Treasury yields surge while stock futures tumble


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There’s no sign of a recession or even a slowdown in the jobs numbers. Headline job creation, at 528,000, was more than double what was expected. The unemployment rate unexpectedly ticked down to 3.5%, matching the pre-pandemic low. And wage growth defied expectations for moderation, staying at 5.2%.

This is only the first of four important reports that will determine the outcome of next month’s Fed meeting: There’s another jobs report before then, as well as two consumer price index readings. But investors are seriously marking up the odds of another hike of 75 basis points instead of 50 in September based on these numbers.

Total payroll employment finally eclipsed the February 2020 peak last month, erasing the pandemic shortfall. It’s an important milestone, but of course, the population is higher, too, since then. So, the employment-to-population ratio is still just 60%, versus 61.2% in February 2020, and the same measure for the prime working-age demographic is 80%, versus 80.5% pre-pandemic.

The only real “down arrow” in the headline numbers was labor force participation: It ticked down to 62.1% in July. But that was arguably tempered by the fact that prime working-age participation ticked up, to 82.4%. That suggests a strong job market is still pulling people off the sidelines and into employment.



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This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 10:57 am
Posted by Jfk Jr
Member since Jul 2022
591 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 10:56 am to
Good news!
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
7047 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 10:57 am to
Inflation starts with a P for persistent. Now we will have to see if the FED really does have nuts or not.
This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 10:58 am
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 10:57 am to
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Payrolls rise 528,000,


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Unemployment rate falls to 3.5% from 3.6%

Labor-force participation rate drops


This is kind of hard to reconcile
Posted by wileyjones
Member since May 2014
2298 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 10:57 am to
when adjusted for government frickery

Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 10:58 am to
People getting multiple jobs
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
12430 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 10:58 am to
I’ll take a proper gander at this data when I have some time.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
38522 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 11:00 am to
Britney Griner did this
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
27222 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 11:05 am to
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Hillary Clinton
@HillaryClinton
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528,000 jobs in July and a 3.5% unemployment rate.

A historic deal to reduce inflation, invest in health care, and tackle climate change with clean energy.

The fastest decline in gas prices we've seen in a decade.

Thanks, Biden.


So much winning that you can't even tell.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10457 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 11:10 am to
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This is kind of hard to reconcile


This is because people started new positions in July. Hell, plenty of people moving into nee titles likely did so in July , so this leads to double counting.

The drop in participation is the real thing to care about and it is a negative and notice that the number value fir the drop was not given.

Also, summer jobs always increase the numbers this time of year. It’s not a shock. Just playing with numbers to force out their narrative.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140479 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 11:16 am to
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There’s no sign of a recession


Did the witches from the view write the above?
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26577 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 11:19 am to
:bidenididthatgif:
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
7431 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 11:21 am to
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This is because people started new positions in July. Hell, plenty of people moving into nee titles likely did so in July , so this leads to double counting.

The drop in participation is the real thing to care about and it is a negative and notice that the number value fir the drop was not given.

Also, summer jobs always increase the numbers this time of year. It’s not a shock. Just playing with numbers to force out their narrative.


Sometimes it's just easier to say, "dang, that's some good news!".

This incessant need to discount anything that is objectively positive because of "muh politics" is pretty sad to see.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
7431 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 11:22 am to
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when adjusted for government frickery


ShadowStats? Who the frick are they? And why do they think 25% of people are unemployed?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72118 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 11:23 am to
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Labor-force participation rate drops
That doesn’t seem good.

Rest of it is.

And why would stock futures fall if this is good news?
This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 11:25 am
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 11:23 am to
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This incessant need to discount anything that is objectively positive because of "muh politics" is pretty sad to see.



But it's not necessarily positive, which is the point. You should try to understand the actual numbers.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 11:25 am to
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Good news!


You're legit getting downvoted. Amazing.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58132 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 11:25 am to
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This incessant need to discount anything that is objectively positive because of "muh politics" is pretty sad to see.


It’s def always a mix on these responses. If it’s bad news it’s always considered to be 100% factual. If it’s good news there has to be manipulated data. LOL

I think we are still headed for a recession and today’s data just means the federal reserve will raise rates .75 next meeting instead of the .50 some had hoped for.
Posted by msutiger
Shreveport
Member since Jul 2008
69623 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 11:26 am to
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The fastest decline in gas prices we've seen in a decade.


My first thought on this is “There is no way Americans are dumb enough to give Biden credit for halfway fixing a problem he created.”

My second thought on this is “Yes, they absolutely are.”
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
7431 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 11:26 am to
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But it's not necessarily positive, which is the point. You should try to understand the actual numbers.


I'm thinking of it in terms of economic contraction. Along with you guys, I'm not really a fan of redefining what constitutes a recession as we saw happen when Q2 GDP was released. We can all debate the severity of a recession but it's a damn recession.

This many jobs added in a recession is unheard of and tells me that, SO FAR, this has signs of being a very light recession. 525,000 people don't usually get hired while economic activity drops. It's odd, but I'm taking it as good news.
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