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re: Job growth totals 114,000 in July, much less than expected
Posted on 8/2/24 at 9:40 am to Cosmo
Posted on 8/2/24 at 9:40 am to Cosmo
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Only way to fix it is for trump to eliminate 10-20% of the federal govt day 1
You can eliminate 75% of government and it will not negatively impact productive members of society.
Matter of fact, it will even help the non-productive democrats. When the welfare runs dry, you have to earn a living for yourself. Once lifelong democrats realize the freedom of earning your own money, it's hard for them to go back to that plantation.
This post was edited on 8/2/24 at 9:41 am
Posted on 8/2/24 at 9:42 am to BugAC
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You can eliminate 75% of government and it will not negatively impact productive members of society.
Yep. All levels. Also their huge salaries and pension obligations that just keep climbing.
Posted on 8/2/24 at 9:51 am to Dadren
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At the risk of making this political (not my intent), this is exactly what I’d run on if I was the republican nominee. Basically “the incumbent administration caused this by not controlling gov spending and a vote for said administration is a vote for more of the same”. And the numbers would back that statement up.
A platform of firing 20% of the country’s largest employer is maybe the dumbest fricking thing any candidate could do.
Posted on 8/2/24 at 9:58 am to lowspark12
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A platform of firing 20% of the country’s largest employer is maybe the dumbest fricking thing any candidate could do.
This statement only makes sense if all government spending is payroll.
But it’s not, so yeah, you can cut tons of govt spending without firing tons of people.
This post was edited on 8/2/24 at 10:00 am
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:04 am to notiger1997
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If the numbers would have come in much better than expected you would also be saying they were fake numbers.
Never believe any number put out by a gov't agency. Never.
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:16 am to SDVTiger
Does this mean people aren’t going to be traveling and eating out as much.
Seems like no matter the economic circumstances the past couple of years it hasn’t dissuaded people from traveling and eating out in record breaking numbers.
Seems like no matter the economic circumstances the past couple of years it hasn’t dissuaded people from traveling and eating out in record breaking numbers.
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:19 am to RLDSC FAN
Coming from someone who has been looking for a job, any job, anywhere in the country for the last 6 months to no avail despite a couple decades of Director and VP level experience and a top tier MBA, we’re already in a recession that’s being hidden by government spending and credit card debt. If the Fed wasn’t printing trillions, the house of cards would collapse. The whole job market is a complete cluster with even reputable companies admitting they post fake jobs just to look like they are growing, nobody wanting to have human interaction with anyone, etc. I’ve been trying to pick up entry level shifts at random places just to have something to do while I look for better and even places with help wanted signs in the window tell you to go apply online and then never respond or hire anyone but then constantly complain about the crack heads that won’t even show up for work.
The problem is that there is no palatable or politically feasible solution to this mess. Yes, the Feds spend WAY too much money and the federal workforce should be cut by 75% but take a quick ax to both and you get millions or 10’s of millions of unemployed people and no private sector jobs for them to go to.
The start to a solution is to get rid of the 10’s of millions of illegals and Visa holders that are clogging up the market and holding wages down but good luck getting half the country to agree and if that did happen, inflation would spike again and you’d have to couple it with kicking able bodied citizens off of government assistance. All good things don’t get me wrong, but politically impossible.
I don’t know what comes next but it’s ugly, and nobody is going to escape unscathed unless they’re already so poor they wouldn’t notice being poorer.
The problem is that there is no palatable or politically feasible solution to this mess. Yes, the Feds spend WAY too much money and the federal workforce should be cut by 75% but take a quick ax to both and you get millions or 10’s of millions of unemployed people and no private sector jobs for them to go to.
The start to a solution is to get rid of the 10’s of millions of illegals and Visa holders that are clogging up the market and holding wages down but good luck getting half the country to agree and if that did happen, inflation would spike again and you’d have to couple it with kicking able bodied citizens off of government assistance. All good things don’t get me wrong, but politically impossible.
I don’t know what comes next but it’s ugly, and nobody is going to escape unscathed unless they’re already so poor they wouldn’t notice being poorer.
This post was edited on 8/2/24 at 10:20 am
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:22 am to notiger1997
They'll be revised lower. Just wait.
This post was edited on 8/2/24 at 10:23 am
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:22 am to Cosmo
So we needed to keep spending?
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:26 am to Paul Allen
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Seems like no matter the economic circumstances the past couple of years it hasn’t dissuaded people from traveling and eating out in record breaking numbers.
credit card debt explains a lot of that.
Ignoring that, the 4 years have been great for people with white collar jobs and owned a house before 2020. Of course, the longer you've owned a home, the better too.
This post was edited on 8/2/24 at 10:27 am
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:26 am to RLDSC FAN
Time to bring dad back in to punish the government for bad behavior
This post was edited on 8/2/24 at 10:27 am
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:27 am to Paul Allen
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Seems like no matter the economic circumstances the past couple of years it hasn’t dissuaded people from traveling and eating out in record breaking numbers.
Too many people have become too comfortable with having credit card debt up to their eyeballs.
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:28 am to Gifman
imagine being a family of 4 on a household income less than $100k nowadays, even in LCOL areas
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:28 am to RLDSC FAN
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:28 am to RLDSC FAN
My employer plans to lay off 500 people over the next year. Fun times!
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:34 am to RLDSC FAN
The 10 Yr T-Bill rate just dropped below 4% too. That's concerning.
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:36 am to RLDSC FAN
Weird. I was told this was the greatest economy in history and inflation was gone
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:50 am to RLDSC FAN
Elizabeth Warren has a solution
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@SenWarren
Fed Chair Powell made a serious mistake not cutting interest rates. He’s been warned over and over again that waiting too long risks driving the economy into a ditch.
The jobs data is flashing red.
Powell needs to cancel his summer vacation and cut rates now — not wait 6 weeks.
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:55 am to notiger1997
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If the numbers would have come in much better than expected you would also be saying they were fake numbers.
I mean...10 of the last 14 months of job numbers have been revised downwards from what they were originally reported. It stands to reason that these numbers will eventually be revised downward too.
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