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Jessica Chamber's 2nd trial ends in mistrial again

Posted on 10/2/18 at 9:54 am
Posted by Titan
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Posted on 10/2/18 at 9:54 am
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Seriously how can this happen again? Being that badly burned, "Tellis" can sound alot like "Eric." Just my opinion.
Posted by 225Tyga
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 10/2/18 at 9:54 am to
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Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/2/18 at 9:57 am to
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Being that badly burned, "Tellis" can sound alot like "Eric." Just my opinion.


I love the armchair experts on the OT.

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A speech pathologist had testified that Chambers was so severely burned that she wouldn’t have been able to produce “articulate” sound.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139217 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 9:59 am to
#believeallwomen
Posted by Landmass
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Member since Jun 2013
26062 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 10:02 am to
I don't know all of the evidence presented but everything that I have heard is circumstantial. You cannot convict someone on circumstantial evidence. I'm sure some jurists have their hearts set on him being guilty but it doesn't change the fact that the solid evidence is missing.

Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21401 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 10:06 am to
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You cannot convict someone on circumstantial evidence.

Entirely incorrect.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25961 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 10:08 am to
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I don't know all of the evidence presented but everything that I have heard is circumstantial. You cannot convict someone on circumstantial evidence. I'm sure some jurists have their hearts set on him being guilty but it doesn't change the fact that the solid evidence is missing.



Seems like this dude just so happens to end up in circumstances where women die horrible deaths.

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The 29-year-old has been indicted for murder in the stabbing death of Meing-Chen Hsiao, a Taiwanese former graduate student, in the city of Monroe. Tellis has already pleaded guilty to unauthorized use of Hsiao's debit card


Edit to add: The girl in Monroe was tortured for her debit card PIN number, cut/stabbed over 30 times.
This post was edited on 10/2/18 at 10:39 am
Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4790 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 10:23 am to
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You cannot convict someone on circumstantial evidence.


You definitely can. A preponderance of circumstantial evidence can certainly be enough from a legal standpoint to convict someone. I was on a jury for a "serial killer" and we convicted him solely on circumstantial evidence and was instructed we could do so by judge Marabella. DNA evidence is almost always circumstantial evidence and that's used to get convictions all the time.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21401 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 10:25 am to
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A preponderance of circumstantial evidence can certainly be enough from a legal standpoint to convict someone

like people getting convicted for murder when no body was found. it's not an easy case to prove, but absolutely does happen.
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Member since Feb 2006
59446 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 10:27 am to
Does it sound like “yannie?”
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 10/2/18 at 10:27 am to
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You cannot convict someone on circumstantial evidence.
tens of thousands of prisoners disagree
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21836 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 10:29 am to
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You cannot convict someone on circumstantial evidence


Eh...

Juries have convicted people with virtually no evidence, cirumstantial or otherwise.
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 10:30 am to
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Each time, though we can't get all the jurors to agree on it, we certainly had those that feel that he's not guilty of this charge."
color me shocked
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
13694 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 10:47 am to
Ive watched the show about this case and first trial and ive deduced those speech experts are hired guns or just flat wrong.
There were multiple rescue workers on scene that described the "Eric" or "Derrick" statement and also that she verbally told them who she was. Why would all those people lie? Many have ptsd from that scene. The experts may have testified to it but they were wrong or those rescue workers are part of a huge conspiracy. I side with the rescue workers.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
49099 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 10:56 am to
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You definitely can. A preponderance of circumstantial evidence can certainly be enough from a legal standpoint to convict someone. I was on a jury for a "serial killer" and we convicted him solely on circumstantial evidence and was instructed we could do so by judge Marabella. DNA evidence is almost always circumstantial evidence and that's used to get convictions all the time.



In Louisiana you most certainly can, b/c we're stupid:

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Across the United States, federal courts and 48 states require juries to be unanimous in felony verdicts. Louisiana is the only state to allow nonunanimous verdicts in murder trials. Only one other state, Oregon, allows split-jury verdicts in felony cases.


La Times article about our non-unanimous jury shitshow
This post was edited on 10/2/18 at 10:57 am
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
42659 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 11:12 am to
If someone's dying declaration was that Eric did this, and the Defendant's name is Quinton, that's reasonable doubt. This guy has gone through two trials and the state has yet to convict. There is no reason to try him again. Send him to Louisiana and see if they can convict him.
Posted by NikolaiJakov
Moscow
Member since Mar 2014
2803 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 11:13 am to
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"Each time, though we can't get all the jurors to agree on it, we certainly had those that feel that he's not guilty of this charge."


Dindu Nuffin
Posted by macaronithepony
Member since Jul 2018
2263 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 11:20 am to
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The 29-year-old has been indicted for murder in the stabbing death of Meing-Chen Hsiao, a Taiwanese former graduate student, in the city of Monroe. Tellis has already pleaded guilty to unauthorized use of Hsiao's debit card and is also serving a five-year sentence on an unrelated burglary conviction in Mississippi.


What an upstanding citizen.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11842 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 11:25 am to
It absolutely sucks but the Eric/Derrick thing has screwed the case.

I think he did it based on everything I have read but he cannot be convicted based on it either due to her saying Eric and them hearing Eric.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
106042 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 11:31 am to
At least he's unlikely to see the light of day again if the Ouachita DA doesn't frick up.
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