re: jealous of Arizona Parents right now: state now gives them control of education funds

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So you want to abolish public schools?

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I wouldn't rule it out.

It may be different in other states but when I lived in BR I'm not even sure I paid more than a couple hundred bucks a year to the school system. That's not going to help much with the cost of private school in most areas.

What if this has the effect on Arizona private schools the same way public unfettered students loans has had on colleges?

The schools won’t be able to resist the money and will let in more students and drop standards. It will also raise the price of tuition since it’s now being subsidized.

We will see….

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What if this has the effect on Arizona private schools the same way public unfettered students loans has had on colleges?

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Of course it will. When has government money come without strings attached? This is like Section 8 for private schools.

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Are people going to be given the equivalent of dollars, that exceeds their taxes that go to education

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The State gives parents the money the state would have spent on that kids education.

Unless you consider public education of any type to be welfare, then you actually have a point.

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If they let things play out how they should, the best teachers will work at public schools and that will make the charter/private schools increase compensation to attract better teachers. The freedom of choice should make everything better for everyone unless the government steps in to save everyone from themselves.

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The main advantages that private schools have don't involve the quality of the teachers. Their advantages derive from: First, they can control what students go there both by pricing out poorer families and by kicking out troublesome students. Second, they are exempt from wasteful government mandates such as high stakes testing that displace a huge percentage of instructional time. And third, parents who are spending a lot of their own money tend to become more involved in making sure their children succeed. I'm not sure if the Arizona bill or laws being contemplated in other states will change all or some of these things.

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Unless you consider public education of any type to be welfare, then you actually have a point.

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It is.

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How does this answer my question? They were budgeting for a system of 1000 students and now 2000 will be given voucher dollars. Whare does it come from?

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My man. The money has always been there. Its just getting split differently. There is no "new" money.

Under the previous system, the public school systems were actually given funds for 2,000 kids, despite only serving 1,000 of them. Some people say this caused the public school system to become bloated with unnecessary positions and spending. Under the new system, the 1,000 students who were paying funds into public schools are now able to keep their money and put it towards private education. So now the system that was serving 1,000 kids with a 2,000 student budget will now have to serve 1,000 kids with a 1,000 kid budget.

This system will be 100% be abused and probably disproportionately impact low-income families, but will go a long way in helping middle-class families looking for alternative education options for their kids.

I am a big fan of school choice and think it's definitely needed but it wouldn't be needed if teachers weren't held hostage of doing their jobs by liberal bureaucrats.

This solves so many problems.

The left obviously can't allow this to happen.