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re: jealous of Arizona Parents right now: state now gives them control of education funds
Posted on 7/7/22 at 6:17 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 7/7/22 at 6:17 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
You still support the grooming of children
Posted on 7/7/22 at 6:17 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Just what Abraham Kuyper presented in the 19th century.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 6:18 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:An area that has 2,000 school aged kids where 1000 of them attend public schools and the other 1000 attend private schools is going to pay all 2000 kids' tuition money? They're going to do that despite only budgeting and paying for 1000 the year before that?
Those parents will get to use the funds intended for their students, also.
This post was edited on 7/7/22 at 6:20 pm
Posted on 7/7/22 at 6:18 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Public schools will continue to suck, private schools will begin to decline, charter schools will still be overrun by con artists looking for a government handout and incompetent parents will be "homeschooling" their kids to get a paycheck.
Going to be a disaster.
Going to be a disaster.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 6:18 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Teacher Unions on notice…..hahaha….Nevermind they’ll never let this shite pass. Let’s be real, it’s about control and not the kids.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 6:34 pm to Chucktown_Badger
quote:Not so fast. Those kids might not have the freedom to go those schools.
Shitty schools in minority neighborhoods have been something they've decried for decades, and now those kids have the freedom to go to a better school and improve their outcomes.
Private schools do not have to accept all students, while public schools generally do.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 7:17 pm to Jake88
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Your private school child is going to get voucher money too?
Why not? We pay our taxes, and we aren’t rich. This law isn’t about helping poor people, though it will. It’s about empowering parents to do what they think is best educationally for their children. In case you hadn’t noticed, public schools in this country, more often than not, suck, and teachers and administrators are not held accountable to parents or students. At my kids school, they are. Can’t put a price on that.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 7:46 pm to Jake88
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Your private school child is going to get voucher money too?
quote:
An area that has 2,000 school aged kids where 1000 of them attend public schools and the other 1000 attend private schools is going to pay all 2000 kids' tuition money? They're going to do that despite only budgeting and paying for 1000 the year before that?
Let me spell it out for you Jake, since you apparently don't own property and pay property taxes.
Property taxes include a levy for public school funding. ALL property owners under 65 pay it whether or not they have kids and whether or not their kids attend public school. So yes, property owners who have their kids in private school pay for public schools that they do not use. So if those parents get vouchers for their kids to attend the private school they already attend, then they actually get some use for previously "dead" money.
And if a public school system suddenly takes a funding cut because of tuition vouchers, they can trim their budget by eliminating the hundreds of bloated administrative positions they currently fund with that "dead" money. I can promise you they aren't spending a lot of it on the kids; I have worked with school districts all over the country for over a decade and I've yet to see one that doesn't have a lot of dead weight it can trim at the central office.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 7:49 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Heard about this the other day.....yeah that would help a lot here in LA. Currently I can only claim 1/2 of what my homeschool tuition cost is on my taxes, and my Christian Health sharing plan isn't deductible at all since it isn't "health insurance"! 
Posted on 7/7/22 at 7:54 pm to Warfarer
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I don’t have any kids but I am still paying for a broken education system.
If you live in a nice area, I bet your local schools are not broken and the high quality of those schools help maintain the quality of your neighborhood
Posted on 7/7/22 at 7:55 pm to GetCocky11
private schools will be a slow methodical tuition increase
Posted on 7/7/22 at 8:00 pm to choupiquesushi
If this pisses off the unions then I am ok with it.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 8:00 pm to Jake88
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Your private school child is going to get voucher money too?
Yes. That's how school choice works.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 8:01 pm to Jake88
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An area that has 2,000 school aged kids where 1000 of them attend public schools and the other 1000 attend private schools is going to pay all 2000 kids' tuition money? They're going to do that despite only budgeting and paying for 1000 the year before that?
Yes. The fact that school systems are bad at budgeting has nothing to do with this.
This post was edited on 7/7/22 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 7/7/22 at 8:06 pm to choupiquesushi
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teacher's union going ape shite
They are trying to ban using mother and father in schools
Posted on 7/7/22 at 8:10 pm to choupiquesushi
Well, you may see more private schools, which would reduce costs, and public schools would remain, which would provide price competition.
But for me, this is about making sure children aren’t taught poison.
But for me, this is about making sure children aren’t taught poison.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 8:10 pm to Jake88
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An area that has 2,000 school aged kids where 1000 of them attend public schools and the other 1000 attend private schools is going to pay all 2000 kids' tuition money? They're going to do that despite only budgeting and paying for 1000 the year before that
They were all paying taxes genius. Actually, the private school families were likely paying most of the taxes. Some public school families were. And a good chunk of public school families probably paid ZERO property taxes.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 8:15 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Teachers Unions ruined public schools
This is a first step in the right direction
Posted on 7/7/22 at 8:17 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Why should private get public money?
Posted on 7/7/22 at 8:17 pm to Floyd Dawg
quote:I pay tens of thousands in taxes which includes property taxes. You don't answer where the increase in dollars needed for vouchers for all is going to come from. In my example, 1000 kids who were not budgeted for in the public school system will now receive some of that funding. The amount of property taxes collected isn't being raised, is it? Don't tell me about cutting the public school budgets because there is a baseline to that spending that will need to remain in place for the students that remain.
Let me spell it out for you Jake, since you apparently don't own property and pay property taxes.
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