- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: JBE drops the hammer
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:48 pm to AbitaFan08
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:48 pm to AbitaFan08
And...Alabama and Louisiana are duking it out fiercely right jow to replace Mississippi as the flat out least logically governed state in the country. TOPS is a good program that obviously needed reform, but this wasnt the right direction. What do you think the correlation is between ACT score and family income....
2
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:48 pm to Epic Cajun
quote:
You think there is no correlation at all between test scores and future success?
I like how you've changed it to "test scores". And GPA matters more. Obviously those with higher ACT's and SAT's are going to get in better schools so it's flawed reasoning but setting a made up standard of whatever number you pull out your arse is disenigious at best. "You didn't get a 26? You shouldn't go to college". Says the person with a 2.8 gpa sitting in his parent's basement.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:49 pm to AUjim
quote:
Alabama and Louisiana are duking it out fiercely right jow to replace Mississippi as the flat out least logically governed state in the country
I said something to this extent a few pages back. This thread is funny and sad at the same time.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:50 pm to FlyingTiger06
quote:
That all sounds great, and trust me I wish I scored higher in all sections, but fact is I didn't.
Well then, and I don't mean to be harsh, perhaps you didn't earn a merit based scholarship?
I would have loved to say I am a Harvard graduate, but I didn't have the GPA or ACT to get in. That's life.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:51 pm to FlyingTiger06
quote:
That all sounds great, and trust me I wish I scored higher in all sections, but fact is I didn't. I still was able to succeed in college and get my degree plus a commission in the USAF. That, in fact, was my original premise: you don't need a score as high as a 26 to be able to pass and graduate college.
Steve Jobs dropped out of college and died an insanely rich, productive, and innovative human being. On a micro level yes you find diamonds in the rough, but on the macro level are enough found that the Louisiana taxpayers should invest in their college degrees? Nobody is saying you can't go to college with a 20-25, just that the taxpayers are not financing your degree.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:51 pm to Jcorye1
quote:
I'm still surprised there is no "you have to stay in Louisiana for 3+ years after graduation" stipulation of taking the TOPS money.
that would be awful. what about people who go to grad school out of state by necessity? and how would this even be regulated?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:51 pm to Epic Cajun
I think the ACT score should be raised along with the requirements to maintain tops while in college. I literally did nothing my freshman year and kept tops because all you need is a 2.3 your freshman year followed by a 2.5 the following years. Luckily I decided to start studying after that and graduated with a fairly decent gpa.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:52 pm to foj1981
FWIW, I still would've gotten it. Yall are lucky I essentially lost TOPS after my first semester
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:52 pm to magildachunks
quote:
Huh. I don't consider you at all.
Good lets keep it that way. But you're still a shitty poster.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:52 pm to Epic Cajun
quote:
How is GPA to be standardized across high schools if the material at the schools is so different?
I mean if you don't think universities put more weight on gpa than anything else then you are helpless. A poster just linked some data that showed class rankings mattered more than act's. Do you know how class rankings work?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:53 pm to quail man
quote:
that would be awful. what about people who go to grad school out of state by necessity? and how would this even be regulated?
I'm assuming it would be like student loans, if when you finally get out of college you aren't working in LA, you'd pay back TOPS over time.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:54 pm to AbitaFan08
quote:
I would have loved to say I am a Harvard graduate
Now you're comparing LSU to Harvard.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:56 pm to foj1981
Thank goodness I have that GI Bill 
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:56 pm to 13SaintTiger
God not even close. I'm just giving an example of the entitlement people feel when they don't have the qualifications to get what they want. That's not a comparison of schools.
What school aside from Harvard would help make this hypothetical situation make more sense to you? Vanderbilt? Tulane? Duke? Where's the line that helps you understand?
What school aside from Harvard would help make this hypothetical situation make more sense to you? Vanderbilt? Tulane? Duke? Where's the line that helps you understand?
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:56 pm to AbitaFan08
quote:
Well then, and I don't mean to be harsh, perhaps you didn't earn a merit based scholarship?
Yet I earned a national level scholarship through AFROTC? Of course, it factored in way more things than just academics so perhaps those other factors overshadowed my academics?
Again, I go back to why we have programs like this. It is to help raise the education level of this state. I understand having a minimum so you don't throw money away on someone who has no chance at graduating college. However, I just think 26 is too high of a threshold.
And by the way, I'm not the enigma from my HS. Our Valedictorian scored a 28, our Salutatorian a 27, and then me with a 25. Scores more were in the 21-24 range. By and large, all who scored over a 21 went on to graduate college. Hell, one of my friends in HS (a truly dumb blonde) scored a whopping 13. She still managed to graduate from SLU after 6 years.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:57 pm to GeauxTigers123
quote:
That's significantly down from the 51,000 students who receive the scholarship this year
Holy shite, that is ridiculous. Good on them for cutting back.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 9:00 pm to ULSU
In the end there will be a compromise somewhere. There are a lot of voters and families adversely effected by this move.
That said something needs to be done
That said something needs to be done
Posted on 4/12/16 at 9:01 pm to FlyingTiger06
Fyi, a 26 on the math portion would put you in the lower 80s percentile nationally. ..a pretty high bar for most LA high school graduates. We have kids who had composite ACT scores from low 20s to low 30s and all did very well at LSU and out-of-state schools. ACT is not the end all be all predictor of success in college...grit is at least as important. I support a reasonable ACT threshold. ..say low 20s...but turn it into a loan if you don't graduate.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 9:02 pm to AbitaFan08
quote:
nt people feel when they don't have the qualifications to get what they want. That's not a comparison of schools.
Sure it is. You think this tops scenario is equivalent to having a certain standard for Harvard when it's apple and oranges.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 9:03 pm to dukke v
quote:
I have s great way to save some money. Mske the people on welfare and food stamps get s fricking job
C'mon man, use your head. Then what would the illegal Mexicans do?
Page 7 of 25
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News