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re: Jarvis DeBerry is butthurt over Robert E Lee beads
Posted on 2/5/18 at 2:08 pm to crap4brain
Posted on 2/5/18 at 2:08 pm to crap4brain
Jarvis is always butthirt over something.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 2:18 pm to crap4brain
I don't understand the issue here. It's pretty simple. If you don't like the beads:
1) Don't buy them
2) If you catch them, toss them out or give them to someone else.
Seems pretty simple
People like to complain because they think it makes them more interesting. I'm convinced.
1) Don't buy them
2) If you catch them, toss them out or give them to someone else.
Seems pretty simple
People like to complain because they think it makes them more interesting. I'm convinced.
This post was edited on 2/5/18 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 2/5/18 at 2:42 pm to gingerkittie
Well, 60%+ of the population of the city his publication serves is of his same racial origin/background. He's got a built-in audience for his writing.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 2:44 pm to crap4brain
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The Robert E. Lee monument itself honored a loser to make other losers feel better about losing. The same is true for monuments to Jefferson Davis and P.G.T. Beauregard. Those monuments gloriously depicted losers so the losing side in the Civil War could maintain its delusions of grandeur and supremacy.

Posted on 2/5/18 at 2:45 pm to WestCoastAg
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The Robert E. Lee monument itself honored a loser to make other losers feel better about losing. The same is true for monuments to Jefferson Davis and P.G.T. Beauregard. Those monuments gloriously depicted losers so the losing side in the Civil War could maintain its delusions of grandeur and supremacy.
Absolutely the truth
Posted on 2/5/18 at 2:56 pm to TbirdSpur2010
By that line of thinking, every group that has ever resisted a more powerful oppressor and lost is a “loser”.
Is that really a road you want to walk down?
Is that really a road you want to walk down?
Posted on 2/5/18 at 2:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
It is laughable that he calls Lee a “loser”. He might have been on the losing side of the Civil War, but he was a much greater man that any of the leaders of Mr. DeBerry’s community.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 2:58 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Absolutely the truth
I hate to rain on this parade, but after the Battle for Liberty place, the former confederates won, and kicked out the state govt and installed their own...
If he hates only losers, why tear that monument down?
This post was edited on 2/5/18 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 2/5/18 at 3:03 pm to fr33manator
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every group that has ever resisted a more powerful oppressor and lost is a “loser”.
Operative words are operative
Also, interesting that you use the word "oppressor"
Posted on 2/5/18 at 3:04 pm to Terry the Tiger
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laughable that he calls Lee a “loser”.
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He might have been on the losing side of the Civil War
Posted on 2/5/18 at 3:48 pm to TbirdSpur2010
He does seem to be bothered. As a result, I predict MASSIVE sales for this particular throw next year.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 3:52 pm to TbirdSpur2010
You know better than that.
And if you don't realize lee saved NOLA, which had more free people of color than any city on the continent, I don't know what to offer you.
Lee was a lot of things, a bigot he was not.
And if you don't realize lee saved NOLA, which had more free people of color than any city on the continent, I don't know what to offer you.
Lee was a lot of things, a bigot he was not.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 4:01 pm to X123F45
quote:he really doesnt have a great history with slavery. depends how you look at it. he wasnt into slavery for "bigotted" reasons or whatever, even though he definitely owned slaves and had his issues, but he absolutely fought for the institution to persist so idk
Lee was a lot of things, a bigot he was not.
This post was edited on 2/5/18 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 2/5/18 at 4:01 pm to X123F45
I never called him a bigot. I called him a loser. He fought (well, admittedly) for the side that sought to end the Union for expressly bigoted reasons.
And lost. Thankfully.
frick the confederacy.
And lost. Thankfully.
frick the confederacy.
This post was edited on 2/5/18 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 2/5/18 at 4:17 pm to Terry the Tiger
To be fair, Lee is as good a tactician as any army could ask to lead. Like Patton later on, with a mission and oversight it will get done.
But strategy was not his strong suit.
But strategy was not his strong suit.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 4:40 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Also, interesting that you use the word "oppressor"
Oh, we can change up the nomenclature.
Conqueror. Superior Force. Their Betters.
The point it you are being willfully obtuse if you think the world, and America particularly, doesn’t romanticize “losers”.
Custer’s Last Stand. Wounded Knee. The Alamo. Thermopylae. Zulu Dawn. The Charge of the Light Brigade.
If coming out on the wrong side of a conflict makes people “losers” then the survivors of the concentration camps are “losers”.
You come from a stock of “losers”.
You may not agree with it, but those who romanticize the lost cause of the confederacy are little different than those that throw on a dashiki or a Kente and pretend to be African tribesman.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 4:54 pm to crap4brain
And there's winners,
And there's losers,
But they ain't no big deal.
-John C. Mellancamp
And there's losers,
But they ain't no big deal.
-John C. Mellancamp
Posted on 2/5/18 at 5:02 pm to fr33manator
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The Alamo.
Losers of that battle....won the war, though
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those who romanticize the lost cause of the confederacy are little different than those that throw on a dashiki or a Kente and pretend to be African tribesman.
On that we can agree. For the record, I think that's stupid, too. Like the clowns in the (Liberal) Black Caucus who showed up to Trump's state of the Union address wearing kinte cloth.
It's silly.
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If coming out on the wrong side of a conflict makes people “losers”
It does. By freaking definition
This post was edited on 2/5/18 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 2/5/18 at 5:49 pm to TbirdSpur2010
My point is that losers have been romanticized throughout history and the civil war is no different. Me on both sides showed gallantry, bravery and honor. You can blame the politicians but the soldiery did what soldiers do.
They aren’t to blame, and deserve their honor. And don’t deserve to be defaced and blighted like common criminals by corrupt And useless politicians looking to pander.
They aren’t to blame, and deserve their honor. And don’t deserve to be defaced and blighted like common criminals by corrupt And useless politicians looking to pander.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 7:15 pm to crap4brain
One of the biggest racist/anti white writers out there. He panders, quite openly, to only one segment of his readers & he is 1000% anti white.
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