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re: January 1, 2025: Multiple casualties on Bourbon Street after terrorist attack..

Posted on 1/3/25 at 7:16 pm to
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 1/3/25 at 7:16 pm to
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if that is how you feel, then why block the streets at all?

If you are going to block the streets that you have identified need blocking, then block them fully...that is all I am saying.

No one is arguing that a terrorist can't kill in other ways...that is why you have a heavy police presence all over to minimize the carnage


Exactly, I don't understand this thought process of not securing Bourbon because people can just be mowed down elsewhere.

The driver could have mowed down people on Canal but still chose to drive around a police car to get to Bourbon because it's a high value target. Also, it's much easier to mow down people on a narrow street like Bourbon where they have nowhere to go, much easier to dodge a vehicle on Canal.

Any of the streets in the FQ where drunk pedestrians congregate heavily should be secured with bollards, both in the street and on the sidewalks. That the sidewalks weren't already secured is a massive oversight.
Posted by John_V
SELA
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 1/3/25 at 7:18 pm to
Has no one thought about him hitting bourbon from the other end and making his way down. Down by Lafittes there's no cops or bollards of any kind and not even blocked off to thru traffic til you hit the hetero bar part of the street. Dude would have been at 120mph if he had blocks to gain speed
Posted by Chief Hinge
There and Here
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 1/3/25 at 7:23 pm to
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Has no one thought about him hitting bourbon from the other end and making his way down. Down by Lafittes there's no cops or bollards of any kind and not even blocked off to thru traffic til you hit the hetero bar part of the street. Dude would have been at 120mph if he had blocks to gain speed


Thank God he didn’t know the layout of the Quarter
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
8665 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 7:23 pm to
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Yeah because saying you can hack the cars would hurt sales.


Being able to hack a vehicle was a thing long before CyberTrucks, does Elon think a CyberTruck can’t be hacked?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
70733 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 7:24 pm to
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I question whether he knew that equipment was there. He didn't get very far down Bourbon. I'm thinking he didn't expect it or do the research to know it was there.


If he walked the area placing IED's, I'm sure he did. My theory is his hood went up from previous impacts causing him to not be able to see,and run into the lift. Either that or there were people blocking his vision.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 1/3/25 at 7:24 pm to
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Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 1/3/25 at 7:32 pm to
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If he walked the area placing IED's, I'm sure he did. My theory is his hood went up from previous impacts causing him to not be able to see,and run into the lift. Either that or there were people blocking his vision.


That makes sense. I was curious about that too. Didn’t think about what damage it had prior to hitting it. Feel bad for those people as their last thoughts were fear because of this loon.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
70733 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 7:33 pm to
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That makes sense. I was curious about that too. Didn’t think about what damage it had prior to hitting it. Feel bad for those people as their last thoughts were fear because of this loon.


Something either distracted him or he couldn't see as the lift was avoidable. Props to the baws for jumping on him immediately.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/3/25 at 7:34 pm to
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much easier to dodge a vehicle on Canal.


It’s the widest street in the United States.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
70733 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 7:41 pm to
I am baffled as to why the lunatic didn't launch his attack at midnight when the streets were packed wall to wall, glad he didn't but still confusing.

Wondering if perhaps the street was blocked better at that time.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
16146 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 7:50 pm to
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The driver could have mowed down people on Canal


He could have got some people but there way to many things to hit on the sidewalk and stop/slow a car. In theory you can go blocks down Bourbon without an impediment.
Posted by pussywillows
Member since Dec 2009
6632 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 7:52 pm to
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Wondering if perhaps the street was blocked better at that time.


i believe someone earlier in the thread mentioned that there were 2 NOPD vehicles blocking entry to bourbon earlier that night...
Posted by Captain_Morgan
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Posted on 1/3/25 at 7:52 pm to
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Update from the FBI on New Orleans terror attack:

"Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) personnel from across the country continue to work diligently to further this investigation and evaluate evidence, interview victims and witnesses, and analyze tips related to the New Orleans Bourbon Street attack. Two days into the investigation, the FBI has received almost 1,000 tips, and leads have been sent to FBI Field Offices across the country for investigation.

As of Thursday, January 2, 2025, all evidence recovery along Bourbon Street and a short-term rental home on Mandeville Street in New Orleans, used by subject Shamsud-Din Jabbar, has been completed. At the Mandeville Street location, bomb making materials, which were rendered safe, and other items were found and collected for further processing. FBI special agents located similar materials at the search of Jabbar’s home on Crescent Peak Drive in Houston, Texas.

On January 1 at 5:18 a.m., CST, the New Orleans Fire Department (NOFD) responded to a fire at the Mandeville Street location after the attack on Bourbon Street. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms (ATF) has determined that Jabbar was the only person who could have had access to the residence when the fire was set. ATF also determined that Jabbar set a small fire in the hallway, and strategically placed accelerants throughout the house in his effort to destroy it and other evidence of his crime. After Jabbar left the residence, the fire burned to a point that it extinguished itself, prior to spreading to other rooms. The ATF investigation revealed that when the NOFD arrived at the scene, the fire was smoldering, allowing for the recovery of evidence, including pre-cursors for bomb making material and a privately made device suspected of being a silencer for a rifle.

Evidence collected from multiple sites are being evaluated to further the investigation. The FBI assesses that during his attack on Bourbon Street, Jabbar intended to use a transmitter, that was found in the F150 truck, to detonate the two IED’s he placed on Bourbon Street. The transmitter, along with 2 firearms connected to Jabbar, is being transported to the FBI Laboratory for additional testing as well as clothing and shell casings from the truck. FBI personnel are also evaluating terabytes worth of video and other data collected by street cameras monitored by the New Orleans Real Time Crime Center.

The FBI continues to surge resources from across the country to assist the New Orleans Field Office. In addition to FBI special agents and personnel based in Louisiana, more than 200 additional personnel have been brought in to assist in this investigation in order to process evidence, support victims, and investigate leads and tips. Personnel support includes, but is not limited to, special agents, victim specialists, evidence technicians, specially trained crisis management personnel, and intelligence analysts.

FBI victim specialists and special agents continue to interview survivors and witnesses. As of January 3, the FBI has identified 35 known injured individuals. The number of injured is expected to rise in the coming days as additional people either take themselves to hospitals with injuries or ask for assistance from the FBI. Fourteen innocent people were killed in the attack. Courageous New Orleans Police Department officers shot and killed Jabbar after he opened fire on them and the crowd on Bourbon Street."
This post was edited on 1/3/25 at 7:54 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 1/3/25 at 8:00 pm to
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if that is how you feel, then why block the streets at all?

If you are going to block the streets that you have identified need blocking, then block them fully...that is all I am saying.



Because they are blocking for crowd control and regular street traffic more than for terrorism. They don't harden buildings on the corners nor even prevent crossing of Bourbon Street at night.

Call it all out as knee jerk reactionary because that is what yall are doing. Absolutely no one would accept canceling Mardi Gras this year because the exact same thing could happen on every single block. They put up flimsy barricades you can drive around .

I'm telling you now, Mardi Gras is an easier target, but no one is calling to cancel parades until every street on the route has bollards.
Posted by Tortious
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Member since Nov 2010
5732 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 8:01 pm to
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If he walked the area placing IED's, I'm sure he did. My theory is his hood went up from previous impacts causing him to not be able to see,and run into the lift. Either that or there were people blocking his vision.


I think this too. Surely he would've walked the route - it isn't that long.
Posted by ScoopAndScore
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
12329 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 8:04 pm to
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Inexcusable that the truck was able to get onto Bourbon.

This has been my thought as well. Especially turning onto Bourbon from freaking Canal on NYE. That should be impossible without severely damaging your vehicle.
Posted by Captain_Morgan
BR
Member since Jan 2012
675 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 8:07 pm to
Footage from the Airbnb of the terrorist loading up. It’s tiktok, so not sure if you can watch it without the app.

LINK
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
70733 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 8:10 pm to
So he didn't even leave until after midnight. Weird.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
27472 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 8:13 pm to
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Because they are blocking for crowd control and regular street traffic more than for terrorism.
which makes them look like bigger idiots for not blocking for terrorism...but I doubt you are correct. They bought those yellow barriers soon after the Nice, France truck attack that killed 86 people in 2016.

They knew about the similar attack in Wisconsin in 2021 and the German Christmas market attack just two weeks ago.

The chief even said they had a plan for an terroristic event like this and the terrorist defeated the plan...those were her exact words...so I think you are rather uninformed on this topic.

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I'm telling you now, Mardi Gras is an easier target
no one is disputing that...that has nothing to do with how they screwed up blocking a vehicle from getting on Bourbon.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
89131 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 8:14 pm to
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Because they are blocking for crowd control and regular street traffic more than for terrorism. They don't harden buildings on the corners nor even prevent crossing of Bourbon Street at night.

Call it all out as knee jerk reactionary because that is what yall are doing. Absolutely no one would accept canceling Mardi Gras this year because the exact same thing could happen on every single block. They put up flimsy barricades you can drive around .

I'm telling you now, Mardi Gras is an easier target, but no one is calling to cancel parades until every street on the route has bollards.


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