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re: January 1, 2025: Multiple casualties on Bourbon Street after terrorist attack..
Posted on 1/3/25 at 5:44 pm to billjamin
Posted on 1/3/25 at 5:44 pm to billjamin
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remember Elon already said they pulled telemetry on it and all systems were fine.
Yeah because saying you can hack the cars would hurt sales.
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Posted on 1/3/25 at 5:45 pm to fightin tigers
Thank you for proving my point, again… There should've been better barriers in place.
Newsflash: you can put barriers on sidewalks too.
Newsflash: you can put barriers on sidewalks too.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 5:51 pm to Chicken
He went through the broken gate, not down the sidewalk that everyone said should be blocked.
There is no intention of putting bollards on Canal Street. We talked about this.
There is no intention of putting bollards on Canal Street. We talked about this.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 5:55 pm to fightin tigers
quote:I will type slower so you will understand better: There should not have been any room for the truck to get on to Bourbon from Canal. One police cruiser was not sufficient.
He went through the broken gate, not down the sidewalk that everyone said should be blocked.
Do you work for NOPD? You seem to be defending their ineptitude...
This post was edited on 1/3/25 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 1/3/25 at 5:56 pm to Chicken
Yes, the cruiser should have been further back.
More bollards and temporary bollards on Bourbon sidewalks would not have mattered.
More bollards and temporary bollards on Bourbon sidewalks would not have mattered.
This post was edited on 1/3/25 at 6:03 pm
Posted on 1/3/25 at 6:00 pm to Chicken
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I will type slower so you will understand better: There should not have been any room for the truck to get on to Bourbon from Canal. One police cruiser was not sufficient.
I’ve never been there so a question I have is why aren’t they permanent? Is it due to deliveries to local businesses? I assume this is the only reason why
Posted on 1/3/25 at 6:00 pm to Chicken
Yeah I mean leaving enough space for any vehicle to go through just shows that thought to control traffic but not prevent an attack.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 6:05 pm to momentoftruth87
Would be a logistical nightmare for deliveries. There's also a good bit of residences within the quarter. Not sure about fire laws but I'd suspect that firetrucks would need access.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 6:06 pm to momentoftruth87
quote:The need for emergency vehicles to get down bourbon is more important than people seem to realize.
I’ve never been there so a question I have is why aren’t they permanent? Is it due to deliveries to local businesses? I assume this is the only reason why
Posted on 1/3/25 at 6:06 pm to CrimsonChaos
Figured fire lane too. Hope one day I can get down there and check it out.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 6:13 pm to momentoftruth87
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why aren’t they permanent? Is it due to deliveries to local businesses? I assume this is the only reason why
Here’s a few top of mind:
Residents right of way to their homes
Emergency services
Commercial services/deliveries
Sanitation
This post was edited on 1/3/25 at 6:15 pm
Posted on 1/3/25 at 6:25 pm to fightin tigers
quote:are you saying that a bollard or any heavy barrier in the space where the truck went (the space between the police cruiser and the building) would not have stopped the truck?
Yes, the cruiser should have been further back.
More bollards and temporary bollards on Bourbon sidewalks would not have mattered.
What exactly are you arguing? Are you saying that NOPD did all they could to stop the truck from entering Bourbon off Canal?
This post was edited on 1/3/25 at 6:26 pm
Posted on 1/3/25 at 6:25 pm to Gris Gris
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ETA: The big truck in the video looks like it could have kept going awhile and drug the barriers with it.
That was my thought too.
You could have had them on the sidewalk and then someone between the barrier and the truck would have been crushed and then dragged until he hit another one.
Not to cast blame but this may be a reasonable solution, what if cars and trucks had some sort of interlock when it detects that it hit something it shuts off automatically and auto brakes. That way once he hit the first pedestrian the truck would have shut off and hit the brakes. Just a thought.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 6:36 pm to Chicken
quote:
are you saying that a bollard or any heavy barrier in the space where the truck went (the space between the police cruiser and the building) would not have stopped the truck?
Sure. The cruiser being back further would have accomplished the same goal. Deciding to leave the barrier up would have done the same goal. Having the old bollards in the middle would have done the same goal.
All of those would have not allowed the terrorist to enter Bourbon Street at Canal. He would have just run over people on Canal or further down Bourbon. Or waiting until they open the streets and mowed down people on New Years Day.
But this one example would be solved.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 6:41 pm to fightin tigers
I hate to continue this, but was the bollards being under repair/ replacement very well known? They were in place, so would Jabbar have known as an out of towner this was even a possibility? He just arrived on the 30th right? I’m just thinking, the bollards down was more by luck than anything for Bourbon street?
Posted on 1/3/25 at 6:46 pm to Chicken
quote:for the information they had at the time yes
Are you saying that NOPD did all they could to stop the truck from entering Bourbon off Canal?
Even with functioning bollards and streets completely blocked by cruisers - this guy could’ve done just as much damage if not more with his IEDs and gun. Then what would we complain about?
This post was edited on 1/3/25 at 6:47 pm
Posted on 1/3/25 at 6:50 pm to GreenRockTiger
This thread would have turned into a massive gun control argument.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 6:52 pm to Tarps99
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Not to cast blame but this may be a reasonable solution, what if cars and trucks had some sort of interlock when it detects that it hit something it shuts off automatically and auto brakes. That way once he hit the first pedestrian the truck would have shut off and hit the brakes. Just a thought
Damn, that seems like a pretty good idea.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 7:05 pm to Tarps99
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Not to cast blame but this may be a reasonable solution, what if cars and trucks had some sort of interlock when it detects that it hit something it shuts off automatically and auto brakes. That way once he hit the first pedestrian the truck would have shut off and hit the brakes. Just a thought.
What if you’re being chased by a killer and hit your garbage can driving out of your driveway? Vehicle shuts off, you’re dead.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 7:11 pm to GreenRockTiger
quote:if that is how you feel, then why block the streets at all?
Even with functioning bollards and streets completely blocked by cruisers - this guy could’ve done just as much damage if not more with his IEDs and gun.
If you are going to block the streets that you have identified need blocking, then block them fully...that is all I am saying.
No one is arguing that a terrorist can't kill in other ways...that is why you have a heavy police presence all over to minimize the carnage
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