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re: Ivermectin banned for COVID use in LA by Bel Edwards??
Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:17 pm to Fun Bunch
Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:17 pm to Fun Bunch
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Considering the source, I am honored.
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Fun Bunch
You actually voted for JBE and thanked others on the poliboard for doing the same.
While calling yourself a red blooded conservative.
You have no room to critique the intelligence of other posters on this website.
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Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:19 pm to Salmon
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It's not.
India's rT value peaked a month before they started handing out Ivermectin like candy.
Why would you lie about something so easy to check out? If you have to lie to make your case, you have no case.
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What was the R-value earlier?
When the second wave of the coronavirus had hit the country earlier this year, the R-value was 1.37 between March 9 and April 21. Between May 15 and June 26, it dropped to 0.78. It then rose for a brief period before decreasing again. The value was 0.92 during August 6-9, 0.99 during August 12-14, and 0.89 during August 14-17.
They started giving out ivermectin on April 20th.
LINK
Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:21 pm to Sentrius
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You actually voted for JBE and thanked others on the poliboard for doing the same.
While calling yourself a red blooded conservative.
You have no room to critique the intelligence of other posters on this website.
You realize this has nothing to do with intelligence, correct? There was one issue that I felt strongly about and still do, but voting for JBE was obviously a mistake.
League Champs is a very very stupid person.
Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:23 pm to Fun Bunch
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AND...India's Rt was declining a month before they started widespread use of Iver.
Showing off that intellect are we? I just posted a link to Salmon to show that his claim was B.S.
You two don't get to have your own set of facts in order to bolster your stupidity.
Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:24 pm to Salmon
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ask the guy that linked Ivermectin winning the Nobel Prize
IDGAF if it won a pie eating contest. If a licensed and trained physician wants to prescribe a certain drug in a state of pandemic, he should be able to with the consent of the patient. Politics have no place in medicine and the drgree of control big Pharma has over the administrative apparatus around medicine is shocking. I can hop pill mills all afternoon and get enough Oxy to kill a herd of mule deer, but my dying mother cant try Ivermectin? Get that shite out of here.
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Not really. If they were a flu vaccine they would be the most effective flu vaccine we have ever had
The latest data suggests the mRNA vaccine's actual effectiveness is somewhere around 40% for preventing contraction and dropping. LINK The annual flu shot, which we all know is a turd, is somewhere between 40-60% depending on season and strain. LINK But it really doesnt matter. No one is trying to force me to get the annual flu shot as a condition of basic freedom and right to work.
Go be a vaccine fanboy if you like. I honestly dont care. Just stop stop acting like this mandate talk is OK or justified. Its not fricking OK.
Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:25 pm to League Champs
I am in favor of a doctor prescribing Ivermectin if they see fit.
I also think that we just don't know if it actually does anything for sure yet and we should study it on a much larger scale.
I can't quite see what is wrong with this opinion.
I also think that we just don't know if it actually does anything for sure yet and we should study it on a much larger scale.
I can't quite see what is wrong with this opinion.
Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:27 pm to Fun Bunch
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we actually have proven things in place that largely prevent death, like Monocolonal antibodies and vaccines.
NOW we do. What about all the people that died without medicines in the last year and a half?
And antibodies are being rationed now. And what if people and their doctors want ivermectin instead of antibodies? What possible reason could the government have for denying them that choice?
Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:28 pm to Fun Bunch
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League Champs is a very very stupid person.
Well, if a very very stupid person keeps owning your arse in this thread ...
Tell me why you just skipped right over the part where W.H.O. has stated that India is the first country to come out of the pandemic stage? If their numbers aren't to be believed?
I don't see that being said about any of the highly vaxxed countries, do you?
Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:29 pm to Earnest_P
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What possible reason could the government have for denying them that choice?
No reason. I don't think many or anyone in this thread thinks banning ivermectin is a good idea.
Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:30 pm to League Champs
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Why would you lie about something so easy to check out? If you have to lie to make your case, you have no case.
India's rT value peaked on April 16th at 1.46.
India did not add Ivermectin to their official treatment guidelines until April 28th. LINK
So 12 days after the peak, India added Ivermectin to their official guidelines.
India did not start their campaign of handing out Ivermectin in the streets till Mid May.
Peru has been using Ivermectin since last May. Guess how much it has helped.
This post was edited on 9/17/21 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:31 pm to cyarrr
The LA dept of health strongly recommends against it, they issued a guidance document. .
I can attest that there are some Louisiana docs still writing for it and that reputable pharmacies still fill the prescriptions - without bothering to ask for the diagnosis. It’s just a silly guidance document.
I can attest that there are some Louisiana docs still writing for it and that reputable pharmacies still fill the prescriptions - without bothering to ask for the diagnosis. It’s just a silly guidance document.
This post was edited on 9/17/21 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:31 pm to Fun Bunch
why has the US ignored other research and why have they not even attempted to look into it? Why are we restricting monoclonal antibodies for fear of shortages, but we expect to administer billions of vaccine doses until the end of time with zero concern of shortages? Why are useless, shite drugs like Remdesivir approved? Why are bureaucrats restricting medication and why are patients having to file lawsuits to treat their loved ones?
This isnt science. It sure as hell isnt medicine.
This isnt science. It sure as hell isnt medicine.
Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:33 pm to Salmon
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India did not add Ivermectin to their official treatment guidelines until April 28th
And didn't start to make it widely avaiable to the populace until May 11th.
Also, lol, what utter ownage of a literal clown.
I do not think Ivermectin should be banned if a Doctor believes it can help and is willing to take on the possible malpractice if it isn't or is harmful.
But we do have actual studies on things like vaccines and MCAs and we know their effectiveness, we simply do not know that on Iver.
Now WHY we don't know that on Iver is a whole different story. I do believe there is large scale pushback for a variety of shitty reasons in the medical community.
This post was edited on 9/17/21 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:37 pm to Vacherie Saint
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why has the US ignored other research and why have they not even attempted to look into it? Why are we restricting monoclonal antibodies for fear of shortages, but we expect to administer billions of vaccine doses until the end of time with zero concern of shortages? Why are useless, shite drugs like Remdesivir approved? Why are bureaucrats restricting medication and why are patients having to file lawsuits to treat their loved ones?
I agree that most of the reasons are political nonsense at best, or simple greed at worst.
But I will also reiterate, regardless of the reasons, we still don't know if Iver is even remotely effective at this time.
Despite what the wackjob nutcases on this board think, the vaccines are pretty effective as are MCAs.
This post was edited on 9/17/21 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:40 pm to Vacherie Saint
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which is consistent with when their cases and deaths absolutely fell off of a cliff
Look up 6 posts
This post was edited on 9/17/21 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:40 pm to whistlindixie
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I think I’d go with Regeneron over the horse paste but that’s just me.
When you say dumb shite like this you should know you're telling everyone anything else you say can be ignored.
Even if you're joking.
This post was edited on 9/17/21 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:42 pm to Fun Bunch
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am in favor of a doctor prescribing Ivermectin if they see fit.
Same. I am also in favor of citizens of a "free" country to choose whether or not to get this vaccine just like they can with the flu vaccine every year. I am 100% against the government, universities, and private businesses mandating this for anyone.
This vaccine is so effective that they want everyone to have it that way it protects those who are already vaccinated? How about everyone for themselves? If you are afraid or have poor health conditions, the vaccine is there. There are other potential treatments there as well, hence this thread. As usual big government is here to help and the blind sheep are willing to follow.
Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:44 pm to Steadyhands
I have said repeatedly that everyone should get the vaccine, but it is up the person whether they do or not.
If people want to be stupid, that's up to them.
If people want to be stupid, that's up to them.
Posted on 9/17/21 at 2:46 pm to TigerstuckinMS
pretty god damn big "or" there buddy.
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