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re: ITT closing all "campuses"

Posted on 9/6/16 at 10:57 am to
Posted by LordSnow
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Posted on 9/6/16 at 10:57 am to
Once you got past the first couple of quarters the quality of student increased. There were still people who had no business being there but that was because they only paid enough attention to pass. Not to learn. I studied computer and network systems.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 9/6/16 at 10:59 am to
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What was the failure rate of those classes? Did you notice students were enrolled who had no business taking on that level of coursework?


My family owns several specialized trade schools and sold a large one(2k students) about 10 years ago that incorporated numerous degrees. The number one reason students failed or stayed in school for more years than needed was lack of attendance.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:01 am to
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Once you got past the first couple of quarters the quality of student increased. There were still people who had no business being there but that was because they only paid enough attention to pass. Not to learn. I studied computer and network systems.


I've always felt that schools like ITT are better for guys in our field. If you are looking to be a sys admin, why do you need to have a degree in comp sci or EE? I'd rather take an entire semester learning virtualization than studying Calc II
Posted by captainahab
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Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:14 am to
ITI vs ITT....

This is from the ITT website (if you click on catalogs and then Louisiana then Baton Rouge):

ITT Technical Institute
14111 Airline Highway
Suite 101 Baton Rouge, LA 70817
255) 754-5800
For more information, visit us at our Web site www.itt-tech.edu.

This is ITI Technical College
13944 Airline Highway
Baton Rouge, LA 70817

While not the same address, they sure are close to each other so not sure if they are related or not.
Posted by LordSnow
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Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:18 am to
They're not related. ITI was down the street and across the road They taught a different type of class.
Posted by LordSnow
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Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:20 am to
Would've been nice if they had VM classes. Instead of having to sit VMware's own class. My vcp is expired and I don't want to pay to sit that class again.
Posted by BeerMoney
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Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:55 am to
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I've always felt that schools like ITT are better for guys in our field. If you are looking to be a sys admin, why do you need to have a degree in comp sci or EE? I'd rather take an entire semester learning virtualization than studying Calc II


Same can be said for coders really. Got plenty of people smart enough to pass a 4 year degree who can't code a lick. Plenty of people never went to school or got the ITI degree and are great coders.

90% of my degree from LSU was useless professionally.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 9/6/16 at 12:03 pm to
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Saying Southern is a college is a serious stretch
FIFY
Posted by OweO
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Posted on 9/6/16 at 12:37 pm to
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Good. If anyone in this country wants to better themselves through education they should go to community college or an actual vo-tech school. For-profit colleges are one step above title loan places when it comes to preying on people's desperation.



Vo-tech schools teach specific skills right? I had a friend who went to vo-tech for Electrician, he had a pretty good job waiting for him as soon as he finished.

Right now, it seems like anyone who isn't going to college for something specific like engineering, pre-med, law, mass communications. teacher, etc then it would be better to go to vo-tech. Gaining a specific skill is much more valuable than a general studies degree.

Do community colleges provide programs for specific skills. I know BRCC has the P-tech program, but lets say someone wants to become a plumber. I know there are a good bit of people out there who simply can't pass the state plumbing exam, but how does that work? If someone wants to be a plumber, they have to gain work experience then just decide to go take a test or is that a skill provided at a vo-tech?
Posted by ihometiger
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/6/16 at 1:00 pm to
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They're not related. ITI was down the street and across the road They taught a different type of class.


If I am running ITI then I would immediately file for a new name.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 9/6/16 at 3:33 pm to
A college does not have to be accredited to exist, but it has to be accredited to receive federal student aid.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 9/6/16 at 3:36 pm to
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Isn't the tuition and fees for ITT ridiculously high?


Yes, and tuition and fees for community college are very low. However, at community college, you actually have to show up in class in order to pass.

You are basically buying your diploma from ITT, etc, so they can charge a high price.

The only redeeming value of these for-profit schools is that they take the classes to where the students are, be it office buildings, online, etc. Community colleges can do better at this.
Posted by CroakaBait
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Posted on 9/6/16 at 4:28 pm to
MS junior/community colleges have a damn strong vocational/career technical program, especially MS Gulf Coast. A two year degree might set you back $6k, but it's pretty much free if you qualify for a full Pell grant. Most trades end up with the student gaining an associates degree, national certification, and intensive prep for state licensure.
This post was edited on 9/6/16 at 4:31 pm
Posted by DingLeeBerry
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 9/7/16 at 7:55 am to
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ITT closing all "campuses"


Are their players eligible to transfer and play immediately? We need some o-line and d-back help.
Posted by Azazello
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 9/7/16 at 8:03 am to
I wasn't aware that these for-profit colleges were so popular and brought in so much revenue. I have read through a couple threads on reddit that are one sob story after the next about people going $100k in debt for a worthless degree.

I thought it was common knowledge that ITT Tech and similar schools were a giant scam and the degrees weren't worth the paper they're on.

Too much faith in Americans I guess.
This post was edited on 9/7/16 at 8:04 am
Posted by chRxis
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 9/7/16 at 8:47 am to
i know a girl that used to work at ITT in BR... she quit a couple of months ago to work somewhere else, so she's kinda lucky, i guess, that she did that....
Posted by Polar Pop
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Posted on 9/7/16 at 9:11 am to
Makes me think about Virginia College.

Campus location................In the fricking Bossier City Mall
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/7/16 at 9:17 am to
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Apparently it has to do with government loans and low graduation rates
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So SUNO is next right?
no responses. . .but a full on killshot.

Public institutions seem to be immune to the scrutiny of private institutions.
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