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It's Time for the Scientific Community to Admit We Were Wrong About COVID, It Cost Lives

Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:25 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133471 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:25 pm
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As a medical student and researcher, I staunchly supported the efforts of the public health authorities when it came to COVID-19. I believed that the authorities responded to the largest public health crisis of our lives with compassion, diligence, and scientific expertise. I was with them when they called for lockdowns, vaccines, and boosters.

I was wrong. We in the scientific community were wrong. And it cost lives.

I can see now that the scientific community from the CDC to the WHO to the FDA and their representatives, repeatedly overstated the evidence and misled the public about its own views and policies, including on natural vs. artificial immunity, school closures and disease transmission, aerosol spread, mask mandates, and vaccine effectiveness and safety, especially among the young. All of these were scientific mistakes at the time, not in hindsight. Amazingly, some of these obfuscations continue to the present day.

But perhaps more important than any individual error was how inherently flawed the overall approach of the scientific community was, and continues to be. It was flawed in a way that undermined its efficacy and resulted in thousands if not millions of preventable deaths.


I'm surprised Newsweek printed this: LINK

Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
17011 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:27 pm to
Hope he didn’t plan on practicing in CA, you can lose your license out there for talking that way.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
41556 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:28 pm to
PT right now:
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133471 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:29 pm to
It's the first COVID mae culpa printed in a mainstream publication that I have seen.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133471 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:30 pm to
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
30920 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:30 pm to
Heads are gonna explode
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
24451 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:32 pm to
Covidians are gonna burn that man's house down.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
25113 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:33 pm to
A bunch o us have been saying this since like week 3 of lockdowns.


You pussies just wanted to live in fear.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:33 pm to
This incident in particular sticks in my craw:

Channel 2 Atlanta

I'd like to torture the moms and teachers who scuttled those UV lights, and do so without mercy. The people who made those lights were looking for a real answer to Covid. Those stupid bitches pounced on them at the first opportunity and they are absolute scum.

I pray for God's mercy on sinners because Jesus said to. It's tempting to wish some people damnation, though.
This post was edited on 1/31/23 at 4:35 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133471 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:34 pm to
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What we did not properly appreciate is that preferences determine how scientific expertise is used, and that our preferences might be—indeed, our preferences were—very different from many of the people that we serve. We created policy based on our preferences, then justified it using data. And then we portrayed those opposing our efforts as misguided, ignorant, selfish, and evil.

We made science a team sport, and in so doing, we made it no longer science. It became us versus them, and "they" responded the only way anyone might expect them to: by resisting.


But not blindly resisting. Resisting faulty recommendations based on faulty logic. Number one begin natural immunity is not effective as the vaccine. Or the vaccine prevents infection. Or masks can prevent covid.
Posted by mjthe
Virginia
Member since Oct 2020
6870 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:34 pm to
So brave of Kevin. Yep, many people died over it. I have zero fricks to give about their rationalizations. That's keeping it short.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
56939 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:34 pm to
I agree. We should still be locked down
Posted by AllDayEveryDay
Nawf Tejas
Member since Jun 2015
8498 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:36 pm to
Once the "science" became political, it all went downhill.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133471 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:36 pm to
quote:

It's OK to be wrong and admit where one was wrong and what one learned. That's a central part of the way science works.



Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
41556 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:38 pm to
quote:

pray for God's mercy on sinners because Jesus said to. It's tempting to wish some people damnation, though.
Have faith, keep praying and peace will come.
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
57328 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:40 pm to
Love how Hollywood stars and music peeps are making commercials now saying well you need the booster shots only if you are at high risk. NO shite I remember the lady gaga's and pinks of the World calling us SCUM of the earth for not getting vaccinated during peak covid. I guess since Daddy Biden fixed the covid the pure bloods are ok now. Fuk everyone of those dipshits.
This post was edited on 1/31/23 at 4:42 pm
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
46943 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:41 pm to
China banned domestic air travel but continued to allow international air travel and no other "world leader" raised an eyebrow about it. This was in early 2020. That should have been the first really big clue that none of this shite was anywhere nearly as bad as media members were hoping it would be.
Posted by mjthe
Virginia
Member since Oct 2020
6870 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:42 pm to
Don't worry, Kevin on Newsweek wrote an article so the curve has been flattened.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
30920 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:43 pm to
quote:

I remember the lady gaga's and pinks of the World calling us SCUM of the earth for not getting vaccinated during peak covid


Pretty sure we had people here on this board toeing that same line.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
41556 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:44 pm to
The sad thing about our current political climate is that this virus was used as a political weapon. Biden's sorry as camp used it against Trump, then when Biden took office, he tried to claim it as his accomplishment, but now that more of these are coming back out, they're using it against Trump again.

I say that's sad bc regardless of how severe you think or thought the virus was, people were dying with it. Whether they also had preexisting conditions, which I'm sure contributed to many, but it was still killing people. And our media and politicians turned it into an absolute shite show. And Trump gave them plenty of ammo.

Science and politics shouldn't mix, yet that's what happened here and we all see the fallout from it.

Also, when did the right become so anti vax and the left so pro vax? It seems only 5 or 10 years ago, it was the exact opposite.
This post was edited on 1/31/23 at 4:45 pm
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