re: It's sad seeing millennials talk so gracefully about not having kids...

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Vasectomies and tube tie should be offered for free for anyone who wants it. Too many incompatible, unprepared people have kids they did not consciously produce. Left with kids in poverty, in broken homes, underfed and under-educated. And that could be prevented with a free vasectomy

Change my mind

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Because at least tube tying is not very reversible, so why encourage women to do something potentially permanent that they might regret later?

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You have to be preordained to have that.

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I tend to agree. I believe that my wife and I were put on this planet to adopt and raise our daughter.

I think so far we're doing a good job.

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for one am glad that these ppl are not reproducing. Most are useles, spineless libs.

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The fact you think it’s the liberals slowing down on having children is cute

42, no kids and I never want them. I enjoy my free time and doing whatever I want

There is going to be a mental health epidemic of childless middle age people who realize their life of travel and leisure was worthless and empty but they physically can’t have kids. It’s going to be something to watch. Maybe we see a surge of surrogate immigrants carrying babies.

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They're suiciding a bloodline that had to defy all odds just to get them here.

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On that fact alone, people should at least consider children. Literal thousands of generations to get to your existence and it ends with you.

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Whatever it is you would think evolution would quickly snuff it out in a few generations. Before that happens the demographics of this country will quickly change because immigrants and foreigners still want lots of kids.

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What you described is evolution snuffing it out.

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what is the root of all of this damned non conformist, instituational loathing, I'll do it my own way mindset that culminates in untethered self expression, thus eventually producing non binary genders and the like.

And then it hit me...

We created it.
It starts with corporate greed. Does it not?

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No, it does not.

You say that Christian Charity is the answer - not Marxism or Capitalism. But Christian Charity is not an economic system, which the other two are.

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Yourself and your child will at times be vulnerable and at someone’s mercy, let’s hope they are equipped with a better moral compass than you

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cool

If I was given a choice

Save my child and that means I murder person X who is innocent, or let person X live and my child dies I don’t think I’m the person to let my child die

That’s me being honest with you. My moral compass is strong enough for honesty

I just got back from the beach for an 8 day trip in a 3,000 sq ft house with 10 adults and 8 kids between ages 0 to 5. If that trip made a lasting memory, it's that having 8 toddlers for 8 days is hell. I did not enjoy a single bit of the trip. It was constant crying, yelling, fits, maniac type crying. I just had a really, really hard time seeing why I would want that. If I do, it'll likely be 1. At absolute max possible 2, but prob not.

The ratio of them being pleasant to be around vs. horrible to be around was like 10:90. Just hard for me to see any "rewarding experience" in that. Sorry if offensive, that's just what it was. If it's yours then probably different. If the burden is placed on someone else, it's just awful.