re: It’s going to be real funny when we find out aliens didn’t exist

Smokescreens

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Honest question, even though you start awful threads. Do you think it is more likely that we are the only intelligent life in the entirety of our universe?

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Probably some type of life form somewhere. But even then you assume intelligence would be selected for In their environment. That's on top of the chance that intelligence even randomly develops in such life forms.


But that's still a very different thing than if those intelligent extra terrestrials are here and making contact for us to be talking about UFOs.

There's probably life somewhere, much less likely they developed something that resembles what we consider intelligence, and almost certainly not intelligent beings visiting us.

Or it will be funny when Bob Lazar turns out to be telling the truth after decades of ridicule.

If it all bullshite why are they threatening people:

Many Americans, including many Public subscribers, believe that unidentified flying objects (UFOs), a.k.a. “unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAPs),” are, at best, a distraction from more important issues and, at worst, disinformation. They point out that abuses of power are rampant across major societal institutions, from the White House and Congress to the news media and scientific journals. Many fear that rising mania over whether the Pentagon is hiding alien spacecraft is taking oxygen and energy away from dealing with more serious problems.

At the same time, the latest controversy over UAPs has to do centrally with abuses of power, whatever you think UAPs are. Last Friday, a bipartisan group of Congresspersons said an Air Force general denied them access to information about UAPs. “We were blocked not only by the Pentagon but by the Department of the Air Force from seeing information, talking to witnesses,” said Rep. Paulina Luna (R-FL), an Air Force veteran. “The numerous roadblocks lead me to believe they are indeed hiding information.”

Of course, just because the Pentagon keeps secrets does not mean it is hiding alien spacecraft. It could be that the Air Force general in question was unprepared to deal with members of Congress, particularly one who has flirted with one of the most bizarre UFO conspiracy theories in a field characterized by conspiracy theories.

At the same time, there is a growing body of evidence that some inside and outside the government are afraid to speak publicly for fear of retaliation. Last month, senior US government officials or contractors with high levels of security clearance were too frightened to allow Public to reveal their identities when discussing UAPs.

In an interview with The New York Times, reporter Leslie Kean said a military intelligence whistleblower, David Grusch, told her that people had threatened him. “The [Washington] Post was very interested in the story,” she said, but “he was starting to get threatening phone calls, and he became — we were worried about his safety…. And he [had] already faced retaliations and all kinds of things as a result of coming forward.”

And Grusch is not alone. “We’re trying to gather as much of that information as we can,” said Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) last month. But, he added, ”A lot of them are very fearful of their jobs…fearful of harm coming to them.”

Now, Public has compiled 75 years’ worth of testimony from UAP witnesses, civilians, and military personnel who say they have been threatened with death, or other forms of punishment, for speaking out publicly about what they have seen.

This pattern of alleged threats across so many decades should be of concern even to those skeptical of the UAP phenomenon. If the witnesses and whistleblowers are reporting secret US government weapons programs, for example, or are even suffering from some selective form of psychosis or a social contagion, they should not be victims of death threats.

What’s more, there is at least one whistleblower who claims to have issued threats to UAP witnesses. Retired U.S. Air Force Master Sergeant, Daniel Morris, reported that the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO) recruited him after he served in Air Force Intelligence.

“I would go interview people who claimed they had seen something and try to convince them they hadn’t seen something or that they were hallucinating,” Morris said. “If that didn’t work, another team would come in and give all the threats, and threaten them and their family … And they would be in charge of discrediting them, making them look foolish … Now if that didn’t work, then there was another team that put an end to that problem, one way or another.”

It is illegal, not just unethical, to threaten someone with death. “A criminal threat occurs when someone threatens to kill or physically harm someone else,” notes Nolo, a nonprofit legal aid society. “In some states, this crime might be referred to as terroristic threats, threats of violence, malicious harassment, menacing, or another term…. Making criminal threats comes with serious consequences, even if you didn't plan to carry out the threat.”

Most people would not report such a threat without good reason, given that doing so effectively accuses powerful people of committing a crime. Congress and the public should thus take seriously the evidence of death threats, regardless of their attitude toward UAPs.

I have not seen any aliens but I have seen one of their rides.

Of course, no one denies the existence of hanger 18 at Wright Patterson AFB, only what they have in the most secure building in the USAF.

I think it's myopic as hell to believe there isn't alien life somewhere in endless space.

I also think it's myopic as hell to believe that alien life is seeking us out while they travel through endless space.

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cannot see how anyone can say these are endless. Do you believe aliens from outside our galaxy could have reached Earth

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I guess we think differently. I can't see how anyone can't see the endless possibilities when we look at the vastness and age age of universe.

Possibly yes they could come from another galaxy. When I envision a civilization 10,000, 100,000 or more years advanced than us....the possibilities of what they could be capable of are way beyond our comprehension. We don't even understand the fundamental nature of our reality, or consciousness.
Let me ask you, what are the primary limiting factors you see for travel at such vast distances?

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Bigfoot is just naturally blurry. Which is even more terrifying cause there's a large out of focus monster just walking around out there.

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You give Mitch Hedberg his due, sir. Right now.