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re: It's getting ugly between 'breeders' and 'childless cat ladies'
Posted on 3/19/26 at 12:19 pm to RolltidePA
Posted on 3/19/26 at 12:19 pm to RolltidePA
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I'd say we're probably more than halfway to dead internet being real.
Yea, most of the stories are fake, or focused on some extreme anomalies and make them sound common.
I just read a story about "Alpine Divorces" where this "new trend" of men taking their girlfriends on hiking trip, then breaking up with them and leaving them on the trail to fend for themselves. The article made it sound common, but then when you read it, there were only a few examples and one was arrested when the girl died.
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Posted on 3/19/26 at 12:30 pm to Joshjrn
What I meant by that was the “I just don’t have any time” from the people who watch 3-4 hours of TV a night, “I only got 6 hours of sleep”, budgeting complaints over wants not necessities, etc.
I’m sure I was the same way before kids thoug and they probably think we’re fricking insane spreading ourselves so thin. Kinda the way of the world.
I’m sure I was the same way before kids thoug and they probably think we’re fricking insane spreading ourselves so thin. Kinda the way of the world.
This post was edited on 3/19/26 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 3/19/26 at 12:43 pm to St Augustine
*opens thread and cracks knuckles*
not actually that crazy in here yet, I'll check back later
not actually that crazy in here yet, I'll check back later
Posted on 3/19/26 at 12:57 pm to St Augustine
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What I meant by that was the “I just don’t have any time” from the people who watch 3-4 hours of TV a night, “I only got 6 hours of sleep”, budgeting complaints over wants not necessities, etc.
I’m sure I was the same way before kids thoug and they probably think we’re fricking insane spreading ourselves so thin. Kinda the way of the world.
Sounds like your larger issue is that you're surrounded by people who lack self awareness
But anyway, I get ya
Posted on 3/19/26 at 1:17 pm to rob0710
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Why does anyone care what others choose to do.
This is what I don’t understand, why is this even an argument? Live your own life
Posted on 3/19/26 at 1:18 pm to djmed
We know 2 intentionally DINK couples and that shite just seems sad. Can’t imagine life without my kids, what’s the point?
Posted on 3/19/26 at 1:23 pm to djmed
Being a parent is not for everyone.
Why is that worth arguing for?
Why is that worth arguing for?
Posted on 3/19/26 at 1:25 pm to Klark Kent
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We know 2 intentionally DINK couples and that shite just seems sad. Can’t imagine life without my kids, what’s the point?
now we're talking
Posted on 3/19/26 at 1:28 pm to Klark Kent
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what’s the point?
what did you do before you had kids? What will you do after they all leave? As unbelievable as it may be to you, some people have perfectly content lives sans children. Not the same, perhaps not as fulfilling, and arguably no better (or worse) than yours.
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Can’t imagine life without my kids,
really? not even for a minute? its a concept that you just can't get your mind around? Is your hubris blunting your cognitive abilities.
Posted on 3/19/26 at 1:30 pm to slidingstop
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really? not even for a minute? its a concept that you just can't get your mind around? Is your hubris blunting your cognitive abilities.
Spoken like a true non-parent (no offense meant by that)
It really is hard to describe just how much having a child changes your perspective on life.
Posted on 3/19/26 at 1:36 pm to LNCHBOX
Well, even that aside, trying to be as objective as I can
how many of us looked at adult life as one static period of XX years? I think most people assumed they would have a young adult life, a newly married life, a robust family life, an empty nest life, etc.
So without weighing in on whether or not you can find satisfaction/see life without kids, I'm not sure "well did you not enjoy life at 25" fully answers that question compellingly.
how many of us looked at adult life as one static period of XX years? I think most people assumed they would have a young adult life, a newly married life, a robust family life, an empty nest life, etc.
So without weighing in on whether or not you can find satisfaction/see life without kids, I'm not sure "well did you not enjoy life at 25" fully answers that question compellingly.
Posted on 3/19/26 at 1:40 pm to djmed
We are the only species in existence to have a large portion of it's population turn it's back on procreation.
Posted on 3/19/26 at 1:42 pm to LNCHBOX
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It really is hard to describe just how much having a child changes your perspective on life.
I understand what you are saying. I've witnessed the profundity of the experience on many occasions. But I think its intellectually lazy to say one can't imagine a life without them.
Posted on 3/19/26 at 1:43 pm to Pettifogger
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So without weighing in on whether or not you can find satisfaction/see life without kids, I'm not sure "well did you not enjoy life at 25" fully answers that question compellingly.
Yea, my kids are 9 and 5. We are super busy all the time with stuff for them, and I feel like whatever disposal funds we have 99% of the time is spent on stuff for them. But this stage is going to be over in a blink of an eye and I'll miss it. I already know that
Posted on 3/19/26 at 1:44 pm to slidingstop
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But I think its intellectually lazy to say one can't imagine a life without them.
I mean, parents knew what life was like before they became parents, so not really sure I'd agree with that. Only parents know what life looks like both ways.
Posted on 3/19/26 at 2:02 pm to LNCHBOX
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Only parents know what life looks like both ways
I think you're making my point. You were single (or married) and childless at some point. Life isn't that hard to imagine without them. You were free. You had no one dependent on you and no obligations beyond your own needs. your life without kids isn't much different at 40 then it was at 20. You live without the obligation or commitment children demand. And I say that without endorsing one lifestyle over the other.
Posted on 3/19/26 at 2:05 pm to slidingstop
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Life isn't that hard to imagine without them.
How exactly would you know what is easy for a parent to do? You literally have no experience to draw from, so how could you possibly tell me what I or any other parent might feel?
Posted on 3/19/26 at 2:09 pm to djmed
The breeders always win.
People who choose to have kids always prevail long run. There is an inherit bias in the population. Non breeders are always self filtering themselves out.
There have always been people for whatever reason who chose not to start families, but that number was always small. People doing it in such large numbers is an abnormal bubble in modern society that will pass.
The future belongs to those who show up.
People who choose to have kids always prevail long run. There is an inherit bias in the population. Non breeders are always self filtering themselves out.
There have always been people for whatever reason who chose not to start families, but that number was always small. People doing it in such large numbers is an abnormal bubble in modern society that will pass.
The future belongs to those who show up.
Posted on 3/19/26 at 2:18 pm to LNCHBOX
I feel like ya'll are on different wavelengths here.
On one hand, of course parents can straight up imagine life without kids - ie, what I'd be doing right now without them.
But it's just shorthand for an argument that is really "I can't imagine a fulfilling life now without them (knowing what I know now)." And only parents can really weigh in on that credibly.
To get even more in the weeds, a parent can look at a non-parent and go "I can see how their life may be/seem fulfilling but I can't see the same for me because I've crossed that rubicon and I can't go back to how I saw the world before."
On one hand, of course parents can straight up imagine life without kids - ie, what I'd be doing right now without them.
But it's just shorthand for an argument that is really "I can't imagine a fulfilling life now without them (knowing what I know now)." And only parents can really weigh in on that credibly.
To get even more in the weeds, a parent can look at a non-parent and go "I can see how their life may be/seem fulfilling but I can't see the same for me because I've crossed that rubicon and I can't go back to how I saw the world before."
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