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re: It's been more than a month since Ohio started reopening - where is the surge?

Posted on 6/17/20 at 4:02 pm to
Posted by escatawpabuckeye
Member since Jan 2013
1057 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 4:02 pm to
Desantis said Florida won’t be returning to lockdown.

Cases are certainly growing in Florida however
This post was edited on 6/17/20 at 4:02 pm
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
14359 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 4:12 pm to
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Nebraska never "locked down" but its been about 2 months since basically everything opened up. Mid-May the hospitals in Omaha and Lincoln were getting pretty full, but the last several weeks seen a sharp decline in positive tests and hospitalizations. Traffic is back to normal levels.



Nobody wants to hear this, but it seems like places don't start to get this behind them until the virus has run through and infected a decent percentage of the population. Many of the places now doing well never really flattened the curve. New Orleans is an example. Mobile, AL may be another. The idea that we could lock down, try to keep the population uninfected and then emerge to a wonderful infection free life was a huge folly.
Posted by escatawpabuckeye
Member since Jan 2013
1057 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 4:17 pm to
Thats nonsense.

South Korea, New Zealand etc are obvious examples
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
14359 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 4:20 pm to
Those places =/= the US. And they didn't achieve what they did by shutting down. I was referring to the situation in the US. The idea that we can isolate a city or state to the point of being infection free strikes me as foolish.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49580 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 4:23 pm to
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So there's clearly a surge nationwide


That is factually incorrect. There is still a steady decline in new cases across the country. There are certain pockets seeing surges - namely states that did not have major surges in the Spring.
Posted by escatawpabuckeye
Member since Jan 2013
1057 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 4:34 pm to
Then how is the EU doing so well relative to the US? Massive contiguous land mass with relatively mobile populations.

Look at their case growth charts relative to ours.

LINK
Posted by DollaChoppa
I Simp for ACC
Member since May 2008
84774 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 4:40 pm to
Georgia hit a new daily high on June 8th
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112637 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 4:43 pm to
Louisiana has had no surge either

We have remained steady regardless At around 5% of test returning positive

It seems an area gets to a certain amount of its population being infected, and then it levels off regardless of phasing/sheltering in place

So, all the sheltering and social distancing seems like it was a waste and prevented nothing

The states/areas you see with increadihn cases now, never had the virus “surge” in the spring like other places. The data is so clear yet people can’t figure this out

And to the person saying America is surging is completely false. America has seen its biggest decreases in the last few weeks
This post was edited on 6/17/20 at 4:47 pm
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
29170 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 4:47 pm to
This all has to do with how people act when things open up. If people disregard safety, the virus spreads more efficiently.

The virus doesn’t care whether idiots believe in it. Your political beliefs have nothing to do with it.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139241 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 4:48 pm to
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This all has to do with how people act when things open up. If people disregard safety, the virus spreads more efficiently.

The virus doesn’t care whether idiots believe in it. Your political beliefs have nothing to do with it.

Your juice box is getting warm. Go drink it and let the adults talk.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112637 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 4:49 pm to
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This all has to do with how people act when things open up. If people disregard safety, the virus spreads more efficiently.

Louisiana as a whole has disregarded the social distancing And masks as as much as anywhere, yet we have had no surge since reopening at all

It’s simply because we reached our virus “surge” already. There seems to be a threshold, and this bitch is going to get there one way or the other
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61823 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 4:53 pm to
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Georgia hit a new daily high on June 8th


And like most areas, it's probably because they are at all time highs for testing.

The virus isn't going away. We can't hide from it. Life must go on.
Protect the old and sick especially the folks in nursing homes that accounted for 45% of the deaths.
Posted by DollaChoppa
I Simp for ACC
Member since May 2008
84774 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 4:56 pm to
Yea, And now hospitals should all
Hopefully be prepared for a surge in patients. I like the idea of letting this thing simmer instead of trying to shut it off and it turning into a fire later.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
29170 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 5:00 pm to
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Louisiana as a whole has disregarded the social distancing And masks as as much as anywhere, yet we have had no surge since reopening at all


I see a lot of masks and we still haven’t opened for live music. Louisiana has been very conservative in its response, and pretty well behaved overall.

But it would be foolish to assume it’s over. Based on what?

Prudent care should still be the order of the day, because there won’t be additional shut downs. We’ve learned enough to know that close personal contact, even more than surfaces, is the primary spreader. Keeping distance, wearing masks when in close contact and washing hands should be enough to keep the virus at bay.
Posted by OsTiger78
Ocean Springs, Ms.
Member since Aug 2019
884 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:10 pm to
Hey guys... Ya member when people were saying this would drop off drastically when it warms up??? Can someone give me the recent weather reports from Florida, Texas, and Arizona?? Wait... The past week were just a bunch of test ”dumps” and ”backlogs”.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40276 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:19 pm to
TBoy we’ve had live music here — husband is in a band that has been playing. At least two of the restaurants in my small town have had live music. Granted it’s outside but it’s happening.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40276 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:22 pm to
Sloane what do you mean by we never really flattened the curve? I thought that was done a while ago by not overwhelming the medical system. And I’m not sure why anyone ever thought that we’d be infection free — I mean you can’t run or hide from a virus forever. It is what it is — wash your hands, don’t touch your face and done get too close.

Not sure what I’m missing?
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21437 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:25 pm to
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Cases are certainly growing in Florida however

Yet per capita we're still well under Louisiana's (or in your case Mississippi's) rate of infection. 2.5 times as many new cases, in a state 4.5 times larger, ain't shite.
Posted by Kjun Tiger
Member since Dec 2014
2147 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 11:04 pm to
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Texas hospitalizations for Covid are up 17% in the last 7 days


For a grand total of 2,518. In a state of 29 million that equates to 0.009% of the population.
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