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It's been more than a month since Ohio started reopening - where is the surge?

Posted on 6/17/20 at 8:23 am
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17356 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 8:23 am
It's been more than a month since Ohio started reopening. Why haven't we had a surge in coronavirus cases?

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COLUMBUS – As several states start to see a surge in COVID-19 cases since reopening, Ohio has not.

Ohio has gradually lifted its stay-at-home order over the past six weeks. The result: a plateau in newly reported cases and a decline in hospitalizations, both reported and estimates of people currently hospitalized.

Since May 1:

the average number of newly reported cases per week has dropped from 476 to 391


the number of weekly cases for the week ending Monday was the lowest since the second week of April

the number of currently hospitalized patients went from an estimated 1,067 to 513

the percent of tests returning positive results each day has dropped from 10.7% to 3.2%

a smaller percentage of people who have tested positive for the virus (not antibodies) have been hospitalized.
"We're not seeing any significant increase or reestablishment of a wave or a peak in Ohio and that’s great," said Mark Cameron, an infectious disease researcher and professor in the school of medicine at Case Western Reserve University. "What that could mean is that people are still generally following the guidelines."
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
99829 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 8:25 am to
Just give it a month

The low iqs have already been sent some new chart showing Cali and Fl are the new hot spots



Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
57594 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 8:31 am to
I am firmly in the reopen-and-weather-the-consequences camp, but the surge from reopening will occur about 10 weeks after reopening. This is because at first it is healthy young people who go out, and the disease spreads among them. It shows up in increasing cases but not in hospitalizations and deaths. Eventually it works its way back to their elderly relatives and shows up in the hospitals.

There is also the possibility that summer dampens it, and the recrudescence occurs in the winter. Another possibility, that I’ve heard called The Dry Tinder theory, is that many people are immune due to other previous corona infections. Those who are not immune - the Dry Tinder - are the ones getting sick in the first wave. The second wave will be small because, between those who were always immune and those who caught it in the first wave, we will be well on the way to herd immunity.
Posted by VolsOut4Harambe
Baw Land
Member since Sep 2017
14951 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 8:34 am to
Not as many idiots out rioting.
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
45842 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 8:41 am to
Ohio has done a good job with tracking and focusing on the reproductive number which to me tells a lot of the story. Dewine has continued to get blasted by the "open all the shite up now" crowd but has taken a pretty cautious and tiered approach, especially compared to republican counterparts. The precautions put in place have been overkill IMO but the results are speaking for themselves.
Posted by ScottFowler
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2012
4769 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 8:44 am to
Got rid of Dr.Acton. Got rid of the Virus.
Posted by West Palm Tiger561
Palm Beach County
Member since Dec 2018
1759 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 8:49 am to
My Governor said we will not be going back to lockdown regardless.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 8:58 am to
quote:

am firmly in the reopen-and-weather-the-consequences camp, but the surge from reopening will occur about 10 weeks after reopening


Hasn’t been the case in AZ. We have seen a massive surge a month after reopening our state.

Not just in cases, but in the percent of tests done that come back positive. Also in hospitalizations due to COVID. Even my pediatric ICU at work has children with COVID needing ICU care. Where I work...we have had to open up another COVID unit yesterday cause we have more than doubled the amount of COVID patients needing to be admitted in the past week.

I don’t see us shutting down my state again, nor do I advocate for it. But I just wish more would proceed with some caution and remember the virus hasn’t magically disappeared.

Posted by Hoops
LA
Member since Jan 2013
8396 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:00 am to
quote:

I am firmly in the reopen-and-weather-the-consequences camp, but the surge from reopening will occur about 10 weeks after reopening.


You mean when it starts to cool off and people spend more time inside in closer proximity? Lol
This post was edited on 6/17/20 at 9:02 am
Posted by crazyLSUstudent
391 miles away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2012
6207 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:12 am to
Yet Texas is going up
Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
9657 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:13 am to
quote:

I am firmly in the reopen-and-weather-the-consequences camp, but the surge from reopening will occur about 10 weeks after reopening. This is because at first it is healthy young people who go out, and the disease spreads among them. It shows up in increasing cases but not in hospitalizations and deaths. Eventually it works its way back to their elderly relatives and shows up in the hospitals.

There is also the possibility that summer dampens it, and the recrudescence occurs in the winter. Another possibility, that I’ve heard called The Dry Tinder theory, is that many people are immune due to other previous corona infections. Those who are not immune - the Dry Tinder - are the ones getting sick in the first wave. The second wave will be small because, between those who were always immune and those who caught it in the first wave, we will be well on the way to herd immunity.


This started out informative then I realized you covered every possible outcome minus giraffes taking over the earth in your post
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:18 am to
So there's clearly a surge nationwide, yet you found one source in one area that shows a slowing.

What point are you trying to make here?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46784 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:22 am to
quote:

So there's clearly a surge nationwide


There is?
Posted by Uptowner
The OP
Member since Oct 2019
2030 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:26 am to
quote:

Ohio started reopening - where is the surge?


Bucknuts are so naturally repulsive that they practice involuntary and automatic social distancing.
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
22814 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:29 am to
quote:

So there's clearly a surge nationwide


Could there be more cases because testing is increasing nationwide?

I've only been following Louisiana. I don't know what the testing looks like nationally.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51416 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:38 am to
quote:

Yet Texas is going up

And Florida may return to lockdown status
Posted by ClampClampington
Nebraska
Member since Jun 2017
4051 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:50 am to
Nebraska never "locked down" but its been about 2 months since basically everything opened up. Mid-May the hospitals in Omaha and Lincoln were getting pretty full, but the last several weeks seen a sharp decline in positive tests and hospitalizations. Traffic is back to normal levels.

Uncle lives in a retirement village and they've been locked down the entire time. He hasn't seen anybody for months. They did a great job early, have had no cases. Family will be allowed to visit starting in a few days. We're gonna watch some golf Sunday
Posted by setinways
Member since Apr 2020
68 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:27 am to
quote:

I am firmly in the reopen-and-weather-the-consequences camp, but the surge from reopening will occur about 10 weeks after reopening


That's a pretty specific time frame you got there. If it doesn't happen after 10 weeks will you change your prediction to 15 like CNN, MSNBC?
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
43565 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 3:13 pm to
Texas hospitalizations for Covid are up 17% in the last 7 days.
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13235 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 3:57 pm to
quote:

also the possibility that summer dampens it


Probably not much considering the hot spots now are Florida, Arizona, Texas.
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