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re: Israeli force kills 4 children in Gaza

Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:47 pm to
Posted by NoNameNeeded
Lee's Summit, MO
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:47 pm to
Why hasn't the West forced integration on Israel similar to that of the anti-Apartheid movement that broke South Africa via divestments?

Full desegregation and integration, complete with quotas and preferences, is the best way to go about this.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
37773 posts
Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:49 pm to
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Full desegregation and integration, complete with quotas and preferences, is the best way to go about this.


A 2 state solution is
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:49 pm to
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Israeli force kills 4 children in Gaza


OMG, he's a Sith Lord!!!
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23000 posts
Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:50 pm to
Some of us realize that the Palestinian leadership has no desire for peace. How can you negotiate with people who think you should not even exist?

Why did Arafat turn down the deal to give Palestinians sovereign control of the Westbank and Gaza?
This post was edited on 7/16/14 at 10:52 pm
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
37773 posts
Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:50 pm to
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All I said was Israel has every right to retaliate


I don't disagree, I just think it's morbidly funny that no one here will criticize underlying Israeli policies or admit that Israel has ever perpetrated crimes
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
75666 posts
Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:52 pm to
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A 2 state solution is

That would make it worse. Who controls Jerusalem? There would be a massive war just over that.
Posted by ColoradoAg03
Denver, CO
Member since Oct 2012
6536 posts
Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:52 pm to
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or obama


quote:

Because he's a joke and needs to keep his mouth shut until his presidency is over.


Because Putin told him to sit.
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
64932 posts
Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:54 pm to
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One difference:

The Israelis protect their women and children with rockets.

Hamas protects its rockets with women and children.

Another difference:

Israel kills the innocent by accident, regrets it, tries to issue warnings, uses restraint, etc.

Hamas only regrets their attacks don't kill more Israeli women and children.

Why? Because they cannot fight the IDF straight up and even survive, much less win an encounter.


Cowards.



Hammer meet nail. The use of human shields by Hammas is disgusting.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
37773 posts
Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:55 pm to
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Why did Arafat turn down the deal to give Palestinians sovereign control of the Westbank and Gaza?


It wasn't that clear-cut of a deal, but I will freely admit that Arafat was a piece of shite and that the hardliners on the Palestinian side will prohibit significant progress...as will hardliners on the Israeli side.
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:56 pm to
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Some of us realize that the Palestinian leadership has no desire for peace. How can you negotiate with people who think you should not even exist?

Why did Arafat turn down the deal to give Palestinians sovereign control of the Westbank and Gaza?



Their charter clearly states that they won't stop fighting until Israel ceases to exist.

Please, not you Bourre', educate yourselves about this situation.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118229 posts
Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:57 pm to
How you been brah?
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
37773 posts
Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:58 pm to
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Their charter clearly states that they won't stop fighting until Israel ceases to exist.


That's true about Hamas. Hamas does not = all Palestinians. I bet it would come as a shock to some of you that there are a large number of Christians in Palestine.
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:58 pm to
I'm admittedly no expert but I have read a bit on the zionist movement and the establishment and history of the country of Israel.

The Arabs that surround them have been seeking the extermination of the country pretty much since its inception. If they had their way the whole people would be pushed into the sea.

If they want to even survive it seems to me that Israel really has no choice except to maintain and use a robust defense and react vigorously to outright attacks like these extensive launching of rockets into their territory.

I think they learned their lesson after the Russian pogroms and the German final solution that being the victim is not really the way to go.
Posted by TigerLicks
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2003
11588 posts
Posted on 7/16/14 at 11:00 pm to
Remember when Ehud Barak offered Yasser Arafat everything he was demanding for Palestinians, 95% of the West Bank and Gaza, half of Jerusalem and an independent state of their own? And Arafat and the Palestinians refused.

There's only one team in the destruction game and it ain't the Israelis.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118229 posts
Posted on 7/16/14 at 11:00 pm to
Well, Arabs see appeasement as a sign of weakness and femininity.

They don't respect it. So, give them what they respect.



Death.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
37773 posts
Posted on 7/16/14 at 11:07 pm to
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Well, Arabs see appeasement as a sign of weakness and femininity.


Anyone who refers to the entire Middle East as "Arabs" needs to be eliminated from the conversation. You know there are Christian Arabs? Of course you didn't.
This post was edited on 7/16/14 at 11:08 pm
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/16/14 at 11:08 pm to
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Remember when Ehud Barak offered Yasser Arafat everything he was demanding for Palestinians, 95% of the West Bank and Gaza, half of Jerusalem and an independent state of their own? And Arafat and the Palestinians refused. There's only one team in the destruction game and it ain't the Israelis.


Exactly!!!! They would rather kill Jews with their own children than live in peace beside them.
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23000 posts
Posted on 7/16/14 at 11:09 pm to
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
37653 posts
Posted on 7/16/14 at 11:10 pm to
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Israel has retaliated. You think they're targeting children? If so, you're delusional.
The OP, read it.

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In a statement released on Tuesday, Human Rights Watch condemned Israel's airstrikes targeting civilians as "unlawful."

“Israel’s rhetoric is all about precision attacks, but attacks with no military target and many civilian deaths can hardly be considered precise,” Sarah Leah Whitson, the watchdog's Middle East director said in a statement. “Recent documented cases in Gaza sadly fit Israel’s long record of unlawful airstrikes with high civilian casualties.”


Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
37653 posts
Posted on 7/16/14 at 11:12 pm to
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Well they didn't start this little conflict.
Who did?
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