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Posted on 7/16/14 at 11:48 pm to TutHillTiger
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Most people on both sides want a peaceful two state solut
Arafat turned down a deal that gave the Palestinians everything they was asking for in order to keep the Jihad alive and fill his money coffers
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both sides are controlled by their own version of the tea party, Hamas and Lukid.
So is this the new liberal line, the tea party is equivalent to Hamas? A terrorist organization who puts suicide vest on children and shoot rockets into cities is equivalent to Americans who are politically active.
This post was edited on 7/16/14 at 11:52 pm
Posted on 7/17/14 at 12:05 am to Bourre
I wouldn't know, but unlike you I have been in the Middle East still do business there and have friends on both side of this fricking disaster, and it is more more complicated that simple media narratives and 5 second platitudes. But maybe you are Ok with burning little boys alive? Some of our allies there are not.
As long as they are Arabs maybe? Oh you forgot about our main economic interest in the middle east the Saudi family didn't you? Did you forget who put them in power? our agreement? Did you check with Big oil?
Can you say 20 dollar a gallon gas? The Chinese will love your position, you just handed over the damn Iraqi fields to them. (The last large supply of cheap oil in the world.
My point is if extremist on both sides dictate policy, bad things always end up happening. Maybe you are two young to remember WW2? This mess came from that BTW.
Killing little kids is wrong. If you are a Christian it is that simple as Christ said it. Yet, we are also told to support the Israeli people. So what do we do when they kill little kids?
As long as they are Arabs maybe? Oh you forgot about our main economic interest in the middle east the Saudi family didn't you? Did you forget who put them in power? our agreement? Did you check with Big oil?
Can you say 20 dollar a gallon gas? The Chinese will love your position, you just handed over the damn Iraqi fields to them. (The last large supply of cheap oil in the world.
My point is if extremist on both sides dictate policy, bad things always end up happening. Maybe you are two young to remember WW2? This mess came from that BTW.
Killing little kids is wrong. If you are a Christian it is that simple as Christ said it. Yet, we are also told to support the Israeli people. So what do we do when they kill little kids?
Posted on 7/17/14 at 12:07 am to TutHillTiger
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So what do we do when they kill little kids?
Tell the Palestinians to move them out of the way.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 12:13 am to TutHillTiger
And my point is also, who do you think the terrorist will attack over all this. HINT: it will not be the Israelis as they are much easier more important people to attack. (Hint it is us)
I do not want my family put at risk because they screwed up and killed a bunch of little kids.
I do agree with you on the Abbas matter. He should have taken the deal. They will never see it again. They would have killed him of course, just like they did Sadat for making peace with Israel and he was not ready to die for peace. You you are correct there are many vested interest on both sides that dependent upon the current conflict.
I do not want my family put at risk because they screwed up and killed a bunch of little kids.
I do agree with you on the Abbas matter. He should have taken the deal. They will never see it again. They would have killed him of course, just like they did Sadat for making peace with Israel and he was not ready to die for peace. You you are correct there are many vested interest on both sides that dependent upon the current conflict.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 12:14 am to TutHillTiger
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I wouldn't know, but unlike you I have been in the Middle East still do business there and have friends on both side of this fricking disaster, and it is more more complicated that simple media narratives and 5 second platitudes. But maybe you are Ok with burning little boys alive? Some of our allies there are not.
I'm not ok with an innocent person dying, especially 3 teenage boys walking home from church
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As long as they are Arabs maybe? Oh you forgot about our main economic interest in the middle east the Saudi family didn't you? Did you forget who put them in power? our agreement? Did you check with Big oil?
Drill here, drill now and tell the Saudis to frick themselves. But we can't do that because your environmental friends would go ape shite and commit Eco-terror
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Can you say 20 dollar a gallon gas? The Chinese will love your position, you just handed over the damn Iraqi fields to them. (The last large supply of cheap oil in the world.
We should have kept the oil for ourselves. But then you would said went went to war for "Big Oil"
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My point is if extremist on both sides dictate policy, bad things always end up happening. Maybe you are two young to remember WW2? This mess came from that BTW.
Most people too are young to remember WWII but there is a thing called education and research.
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Killing little kids is wrong. If you are a Christian it is that simple as Christ said it. Yet, we are also told to support the Israeli people. So what do we do when they kill little kids?
You support Palestinians, what do you do when Palestinians kill Jewish children?
This post was edited on 7/17/14 at 12:16 am
Posted on 7/17/14 at 12:15 am to TutHillTiger
Ok I will remind you of this when they get a tactical nuke from the Russians and hit New York.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 12:19 am to TutHillTiger
Your narrow simple mind mistakes me for a liberal. I have raised and given more money to the Republican Party you could dream off and more that 99.9% of the country. Just go back to watching Fox news and being a sheep.
I will stay with the Lions and pray for you.
I will stay with the Lions and pray for you.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 12:31 am to TutHillTiger
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I have raised and given more money to the Republican Party you could dream off and more that 99.9% of the country
And you called me a sheep
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Just go back to watching Fox news
And you said I was narrow and simple minded
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I will stay with the Lions and pray for you.
That's funny. I'm sure me and my Army brothers will be ok. Keep your prayers for yourself, I will be just fine
Posted on 7/17/14 at 12:43 am to The Goon Squad
Good
Posted on 7/17/14 at 12:59 am to bgtiger
In the recent July10-11 conflict 680 Palestinians were injured, 114 died. 88 of the 114 Palestinians killed were civilians. 30 of the 114 killed were children. Israeli forces have damaged water/sewage sources in eight separate locations..
Hard to defend.
Hard to defend.
This post was edited on 7/17/14 at 1:01 am
Posted on 7/17/14 at 1:02 am to bmy
If Israel didn't have the Iron Dome defense system, how many Israeli citizens and children would have died in Tel Aviv or other cities Hamas is shooting rockets towards? Would you be as outraged?
This post was edited on 7/17/14 at 1:03 am
Posted on 7/17/14 at 1:05 am to Bourre
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If Israel didn't have the Iron Dome defense system, how many Israeli citizens and children would have died in Tel Aviv or other cities Hamas is shooting rockets towards?
More than are currently dying now, obviously. For every 1 Israeli death ~18 Palestinian civilians are killed. It's terrorism on both sides.. only one side is far better at it.
My only issue with the entire subject is that we give money to Israel so they can keep bombing brown people.
This post was edited on 7/17/14 at 1:07 am
Posted on 7/17/14 at 1:11 am to bmy
So, why doesn't the people of Gaza just turn in Hamas and Israel would stop? Seems like all they do is blame the Jews for bombing, when in fact, Hamas has free reign.....fwiw
Posted on 7/17/14 at 1:13 am to bmy
We give the Palestinians aid so they can stay unemployed and strap bombs on their kids and kill "white people".
Posted on 7/17/14 at 1:17 am to Pepe Lepew
Israel creates more terrorists every day. Intentionally damaging water and sewage systems is fricking cruel.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 1:24 am to bmy
Strapping bombs to women and children to kill innocent civilians is fricking cruel. Calling for an entire race of people to be wiped off the map is fricking cruel. Using civilians as human shields is fricking cruel. Defending your country from terrorist is fricking awesome
This post was edited on 7/17/14 at 1:26 am
Posted on 7/17/14 at 1:29 am to bmy
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Israel creates more terrorists every day.
so the culture the children in Gaza are raised in has nothing to do with it? Only Israel?
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:15 am to Bourre
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Strapping bombs to women and children to kill innocent civilians is fricking cruel.
The ~18 Palestinian civilians killed per Israeli soldier death didn't strap bombs to anyone. They didn't call for an entire race of people to be wiped off the map either. They also didn't use other civilians as human shields. So.. why are are 72+% of all casualties in this conflict Palestinian civilians? Israel is either really really bad at using their weapons or they're intentionally killing civilians. It would be nice if all the terrorists were gone.. Netanyahu included. In the July 10-11 conflict, 3 Israeli civillians were wounded and zero died. 88 Palestinian civilians were killed, 30 were children. They did get 26 bad guys though.
In what kind of world is that type of.. efficiency.. acceptable? If it was 88 militants, 26 civilians, and 3 children.. it would at least make sense.
This post was edited on 7/17/14 at 2:20 am
Posted on 7/17/14 at 2:19 am to bmy
The fact that the US has a position in all this makes me want to vomit
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