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re: Israel–Hamas War Discussion Thread: News Links On First Page

Posted on 10/12/23 at 2:45 pm to
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 2:45 pm to
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Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades leader in Gaza, Sami al-Abd al-Hassani, was eliminated in an IDF airstrike in al-Shati camp, the terror group confirms.


Another one bites the dust.

Who’s next?
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24341 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 2:48 pm to
I get what you're saying, but that's not how that works. No military is going to start something like a ground operation against an enemy who is entrenched (however small Gaza may be) without having all their ducks in a row.

As others have said, this has the potential to turn into a shitshow for the IDF having to fight through such a dense urban environment. It takes time and planning. The Israelis are content to keep Hamas' heads down with the airstrikes while they make sure everything is ready. Then, they will probably double check everything is ready, then go.
This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 2:49 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104547 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 2:50 pm to
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The Israelis are content to keep Hamas' heads down with the airstrikes while they make sure everything is ready. Then, they will probably double check everything is ready, then go.


Yep.

And with it being a dense urban environment, being able to siege Hamas is a legit tactic. They WILL run out of supplies sooner or later, no matter how many tunnels they have. Davos Seaworth ain’t showing up with a ship full of onions to save 2 million people.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 2:55 pm to
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But their idea of a porportional response


Judaism doesn’t have an equivalent of Christianities just war concept and proportionality, it’s generally understood that wars of annihilation are no longer permitted but the concept never developed beyond that. With the destruction of the Jewish state, there was no need to consider such issues.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111656 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 2:56 pm to
Putting rules on War is just a silly concept to me.

Rule number 1. Win

Rule number 2. See rule number 1
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
69100 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:01 pm to
So, 2 million dead people is OK?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104547 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:02 pm to
So, 1200+ dead people deserves no response?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111656 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:06 pm to
Death is never “ok”. But if someone attacks you and brings you into war the only truly important rule is “win”.
This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 3:07 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:14 pm to
@arabnews
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#Egypt's President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi says #Gazans must "stay steadfast and remain on their land", amid calls for #Cairo to allow safe passage for civilians stuck in #Gaza


Xwitter
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:16 pm to
lol

god damn

that’s honestly pretty brutal
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63593 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:16 pm to
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I get what you're saying, but that's not how that works. No military is going to start something like a ground operation against an enemy who is entrenched (however small Gaza may be) without having all their ducks in a row.
I understand that completely. It's wasn't meant as a criticism (though it sounded like it).

Just recognizing the political need for urgency.
This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 3:19 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104547 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:17 pm to
Palestinians are the people no one likes in the ME. For good reason in a number of cases such as Egypt and Jordan.
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
22322 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:18 pm to
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Believe it or not aljaerra (sp) is a solid news organization that tries almost too hard to be be fair and balanced


Yes, I read Al Jazeera regularly. They have about the most balanced news about Ukraine you will find, and so far, their coverage of the Gaza-Israeli war has not resorted to sensationalism.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24341 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:23 pm to
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Egypt's President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi says #Gazans must "stay steadfast and remain on their land",

Damn.

Pretty brutal way to say "you wanted it, now you're gonna get it".
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109661 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:26 pm to
Other Arab countries have no use for the Palestinians and don't really care if they were wiped out. They'd probably prefer it so they could use it as propaganda against Israel. Lives aren't valued there like they are here.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:26 pm to
@manniefabian
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IDF says it struck in the last few hours five residential buildings used by Hamas operatives, including one that the brother of Hamas chief Yahya Sinwar was presumed to be in.

Xwitter
Posted by biohzrd
Central City
Member since Jan 2010
5908 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:34 pm to
You can tell a few of those buildings being hit had stores of munitions in them. Keep pounding them IDF!!!!
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
35293 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:35 pm to
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Does Hamas deserve better as of now?

Given the shite they did and showed to the families of the victims, death by suffocation is actually pretty tame.
their will and means to fight needs to be eradicated. rooting them out of the tunnels will be a bloody concept. Dying of dehydration is pretty brutal.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
35293 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:41 pm to
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Putting rules on War is just a silly concept to me.

Rule number 1. Win

Rule number 2. See rule number 1


Rule number 3. Make it so that your enemy never wants to cross your path again.

Rule number 4. Remove their will and capability to fight again.

Rule number 5. Make their allies afraid of you.
Posted by Bigfishchoupique
Member since Jul 2017
9619 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:42 pm to
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#Egypt's President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi says #Gazans must "stay steadfast and remain on their land", amid calls for #Cairo to allow safe passage for civilians stuck in #Gaza
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Took a play out of Harry Lee’s playbook. Block the bridge - 2005.
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