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re: Is Transgender purely a mental illness?

Posted on 10/9/19 at 8:30 pm to
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 10/9/19 at 8:30 pm to
Maybe mental illness isn't the correct term, but I think it has to do with how someone develops.

All fetuses start out as a female right? Then it either stays a female or develops into a male.. I just think there are times when certain parts of development doesn't balance out.

To the people who have this experience, I don't think it is an "illness". Its more of an imbalance.

And like many other things, its hard to understand unless you experience it.
Posted by Summer of George
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
6180 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 8:31 pm to
Yes
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 8:39 pm to
It's a fetish, and the rest of us are unwilling participants in its prurient public indulgence. This is no different from someone indulging in erotic auto-asphyxiation or diaper-play in public.

Is it a "mental illness?" Well, I don't know and I mostly don't care. But there are people with real, organic schizophrenia and lumping this fetish in with their problem seems insulting to me.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45991 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 9:16 pm to
quote:

Maybe mental illness isn't the correct term, but I think it has to do with how someone develops.


No it is a mental disorder and it is not caused by development. It is caused by parents not teaching their kids proper gender roles when they are less than three years of age.

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All fetuses start out as a female right?


No. They start out with what is called the gonadal ridge and how it develops is based on what genes are present.

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I just think there are times when certain parts of development doesn't balance out.


That does happen but that is called ambiguous genital and it is completely different than gender identity disorder.

Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41660 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 9:17 pm to
I've known people who were mentally or physically harmed by mentally ill infoviduals.

I've never met anyone hurt by a tranny.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:39 pm to
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Your implied conclusion begs the question of what is mental illness--all you've established here is a biochemical pathway. Now do schizophrenia and bipolar disorder.


Transgenderism is akin to those disorders in that it is a physical defect of the brain, not some nebulous “chemical imbalance.”

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You also seem to assume self-proclaimed transgendered people are monolithic. I'm certain there is a statistically significant subset of trans folk who do not have the upstairs mixup you described, causing the downstairs mixup.


There is no mixup. There is a physical developmental defect that is being expressed in the behavior of a person having the transgender condition.

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Once it becomes a cultural totem, you're going to have converts joining the cult.


I rather doubt that.
Posted by MF Doom
I'm only Joshin'
Member since Oct 2008
12040 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:44 pm to
Thinking you need to cut off your junk to feel "whole" is definitely a mental illness

Send em to the front lines
This post was edited on 10/10/19 at 9:46 pm
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
32407 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:48 pm to
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They are miserable because they learned that their desire to be a woman was sexually driven, and without the sex drive to power that desire anymore, they no longer wish to be a woman, and kill themselves since its irreversable



I could really see this being the truth.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
21034 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:51 pm to
Yes. It isn’t remotely a complicated issue
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:56 pm to
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All fetuses start out as a female right?


No. Gender is known as early as when it's just an embryo.


When you do IVF and they do genetic screening on embryos they can tell you the gender if you want before they even transfer it to the woman's uterus.
Posted by YipSkiddlyDooo
Member since Apr 2013
3820 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 10:24 pm to
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I'd say there are probably some genetics at play with it.


In the same way that bipolar disorders and schizophrenia have some genetics at play, yeah.
Posted by jim712
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
1521 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 10:24 pm to
Read something and post less until you do, Your question reflects an appalling ignorance
Posted by Tortious
ATX
Member since Nov 2010
5770 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 10:26 pm to
Hermaphrodites have both. Trans think they have the other one. Yes illness
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
19457 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 10:29 pm to
As in the words of Ron White....
“Not even your everyday queer would talk to em.”
Posted by NWarty
Somewhere in the PNW
Member since Sep 2013
2181 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 11:08 pm to
Some of the responses in this thread like this, are truly saddening as to what some of y’all think of us.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24279 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 11:15 pm to
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Some of the responses in this thread like this, are truly saddening as to what some of y’all think of us.


If you’re not trolling , I sincerely hope you find help, and I wish the disgusting progressives hadn’t fought against helping you for decades. I pray your suffering finds a remedy. Good luck.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38567 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 11:18 pm to
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Some of the responses in this thread like this, are truly saddening as to what some of y’all think of us.
I haven't read the thread and I don't agree with any personal attacks but I do believe it's a mental illness. I wouldn't insult you about it and don't think it lessons your worth as a person, though. We all have our struggles.

Posted by NWarty
Somewhere in the PNW
Member since Sep 2013
2181 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 11:27 pm to
No, I’m not. As far as I know, I’m the only publicly “out” trans person here at TD. Search my post history if you want my backstory.

Don’t feel pity for me. I have a good life, loving wife and sons, a good job, and pension from Uncle Sam. My world is tough at times, but I keep going, one foot in front of the other.
This post was edited on 10/10/19 at 11:31 pm
Posted by NWarty
Somewhere in the PNW
Member since Sep 2013
2181 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 11:28 pm to
Northshore, thank you. We’ve had good posts on this topic in the past. Hope you’re well.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38567 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 11:36 pm to
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Northshore, thank you. We’ve had good posts on this topic in the past. Hope you’re well.
Same to you, my friend.
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