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re: Is there anything that can be done to fix the crime issue in New Orleans?
Posted on 10/8/20 at 10:36 am to dewster
Posted on 10/8/20 at 10:36 am to dewster
Addressing the OP question: "Is there anything that can be done to fix the crime issue in New Orleans?", there is a very hard truth for most to swallow: If there were no black people in New Orleans, hypothetically, murder would drop by between 95% and 99%.
In 60% Black New Orleans, almost 99% of Homicides and Nofatal Shootings comitted by Blacks
I hate to even see these statistics because I do not want to lay any blame for crime at the feet of any one group of people, but here we are.
In 60% Black New Orleans, almost 99% of Homicides and Nofatal Shootings comitted by Blacks
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Of known murder suspects, 94.9% were black and of known nonfatal shooting suspects, and 95.5% of nonfatal shootings suspects were black. With just over 60 percent of homicides unsolved and more than 75% of nonfatal shootings unsolved (and with violence involving a white suspect normally solved quickly because it involves either a spouse or family member), it’s quite obvious blacks are responsible for close 98% of homicides and nonfatal 99% of nonfatal shootings in New Orleans. Call the major of error plus or minus 3.5
I hate to even see these statistics because I do not want to lay any blame for crime at the feet of any one group of people, but here we are.
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Posted on 10/8/20 at 10:41 am to jordan21210
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There is a lot of data that suggests broken windows policing doesn’t work, or at least was not the only factor leading to reduced crime under Giuliani.
The latter is true. That is why I mentioned other stuff.
They need to bring the hammer down on New Orleans crime and blight in a myriad of ways.
Posted on 10/8/20 at 10:44 am to WizardSleeve
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If there were no black people in New Orleans, hypothetically, murder would drop by between 95% and 99%
what a realistic suggestion, we'll just kick all the black people out. why hadn't we thought of that before
Posted on 10/8/20 at 10:48 am to NimbleCat
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You can't have Law and Order and Democrats. You have to pick one or the other.
Lol
Posted on 10/8/20 at 10:48 am to HT713
As long as pulling a trigger is the major way of gaining respect within a community nothing will change.
Posted on 10/8/20 at 10:48 am to HT713
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it's really amazing that we, as a society, have already collectively realized beyond a shadow of a doubt that these type of measures don't work.... but people still insist on them
They work to an extent but they just frick up some innocent people too. There are variations of it that are better than others that just focus on what the FBI considers escalating behaviors. I forgot all the details, but just because one all-out version isn't effective doesn't mean a more targeted derivative wouldn't work.
They asked how to fix New Orleans, not how to do it in a nice way with no carnage
New Orleans needs a much larger police force and DAs office as well to handle everything. Right now there are violent criminals being allowed to walk the street because they can't handle the case load.
More patrols, more police visibility, etc.
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And a parallel effort should be made in the communities to somehow redirect misguided youth. I don't know how that is possible or what to do, but it feels like these shootings and violent events are involving younger and younger people. Really sad.
This post was edited on 10/8/20 at 10:51 am
Posted on 10/8/20 at 10:51 am to whichyalnoaboutseven
attitude change that was bred by decades of democrats in charge.
Drugs.
Drugs.
This post was edited on 10/8/20 at 10:55 am
Posted on 10/8/20 at 10:52 am to dgnx6
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attitude change that was bread by decades of democrats in charge.
so you think people just need to try Keto?
Posted on 10/8/20 at 10:53 am to brewhan davey
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Bring back the mafia
This is actually not a bad idea, when that left, the drugs came in and kids started just killing each other in the streets
Posted on 10/8/20 at 10:57 am to HT713
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so you think people just need to try Keto?
Probably ive never seen such an obese population living in poverty. There are fat as frick women begging for money cus they hongry
This post was edited on 10/8/20 at 10:57 am
Posted on 10/8/20 at 12:03 pm to whichyalnoaboutseven
New Orleans is so bad I don’t really ever want to visit it again. I may just go back for LSU national championship games.
Posted on 10/8/20 at 12:30 pm to whichyalnoaboutseven
Bring back Ronal Serpas the village idiot
Posted on 10/8/20 at 12:36 pm to HT713
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what a realistic suggestion, we'll just kick all the black people out. why hadn't we thought of that before
That was not the proposal, just a fact to show that the problem with violent crime is almost completely isolated to one group of people. Nothing will change until media, government, and the general population admit this and base policy and change around it. Right now no one is allowed to say that blacks are responsible for nearly every murder in NOLA
This post was edited on 10/8/20 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 10/8/20 at 12:43 pm to whichyalnoaboutseven
gentrification
investment
fixing the school system
fixing corruption in all levels of city government
nola issues run deep. nola essentially died when the oil bust hit. a lot of the wealth and corporations split and headed to houston.
Nola isn't a desirable location for corporations other than maritime for the most part. The state doesn't do enough to woo business to move here, and the city government is always looking for a good palm greasing. it would take decades and decades of mayors with the same ideals and attitudes like when Giuliani cleaned up NYC.
It's the irony of all these apartments and condos being built in the CBD. People are buying them as second homes and vacation spots. Office space is still widely available. Typically those two metrics work in concert. When there is investment in living downtown, businesses are usually moving in and bringing in young talent. That's not the case here
investment
fixing the school system
fixing corruption in all levels of city government
nola issues run deep. nola essentially died when the oil bust hit. a lot of the wealth and corporations split and headed to houston.
Nola isn't a desirable location for corporations other than maritime for the most part. The state doesn't do enough to woo business to move here, and the city government is always looking for a good palm greasing. it would take decades and decades of mayors with the same ideals and attitudes like when Giuliani cleaned up NYC.
It's the irony of all these apartments and condos being built in the CBD. People are buying them as second homes and vacation spots. Office space is still widely available. Typically those two metrics work in concert. When there is investment in living downtown, businesses are usually moving in and bringing in young talent. That's not the case here
This post was edited on 10/8/20 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 10/8/20 at 12:47 pm to whichyalnoaboutseven
Don’t elect leaders based on race. Stop electing the same party that has repeatedly failed you.
Posted on 10/8/20 at 12:49 pm to Uptowner
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Among the ten largest cities in Louisiana, the town of Alexandria had the highest crime rate at 9,174.6 crimes per 100,000 people. Why aren't we crying for Alexandria?
Literally no one is worried about getting capped for their iPhone in Alexandria.
Posted on 10/8/20 at 12:52 pm to supadave3
quote:you said it’s getting worse everyday and got proven wrong... it’s ok. It happens
Ok, then it's the Hard Rocks developers fault that there was a shootout on Canal at 3 in the afternoon this week.
My bad, NOLA is fine and the demographic makeup is ripe for growth and development. Isn't SpaceEx considering Central CIty for it's engineering hub?
Posted on 10/8/20 at 12:58 pm to CatfishJohn
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New Orleans needs a much larger police force and DAs office as well to handle everything. Right now there are violent criminals being allowed to walk the street because they can't handle the case load.
This and the city/parish judicial system needs to be over hauled - the judges are the worst
Posted on 10/8/20 at 1:09 pm to Old Money
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Literally no one is worried about getting capped for their iPhone in Alexandria.
Literally have never been in fear of this since moving to New Orleans. You think the shootings in Central City and New Orleans East are over iPhones?
Posted on 10/8/20 at 1:42 pm to jordan21210
Way too many issues to actually fix it.
NOLA has had a Democrat mayor for 146 years. Haven't had a Republican mayor since 9 years after the civil war. Almost 150 years of democratic leadership got NOLA where it's at today.
The being paid for kids has to stop.. make the amount of money the same if you have one kid or ten.
The black community has got to step up. BLM has to stop and law enforcement has to be supported and criminals reported. Too many shootings with no witnesses.
Politicians need to stop saying that the white man is the greatest threat to our nation and children when or 50% of shootings are by 13% of the population.
But democrats won't say that... they say we have a problem with white supremacy instead.
Ever notice when there's a mass shooting by white guy the left says the problems is guns, but when gangbangers have a mass shooting the left says it's poverty and education...
Education? Forget that... education today is the hip hop song that says to sling drugs and shoot people while you work on your rap.
Funny how last year everybody was upset about "Baby it's cold outside", but this year "WAP" BY Cardfi B is number one... Along with "Rockstar" by Rowdy Rich.
Right now nola is ranked in the top ten for murder per capita, and the Saints put Rapists names on their helmets... that's got to be great for tourism...
NOLA has had a Democrat mayor for 146 years. Haven't had a Republican mayor since 9 years after the civil war. Almost 150 years of democratic leadership got NOLA where it's at today.
The being paid for kids has to stop.. make the amount of money the same if you have one kid or ten.
The black community has got to step up. BLM has to stop and law enforcement has to be supported and criminals reported. Too many shootings with no witnesses.
Politicians need to stop saying that the white man is the greatest threat to our nation and children when or 50% of shootings are by 13% of the population.
But democrats won't say that... they say we have a problem with white supremacy instead.
Ever notice when there's a mass shooting by white guy the left says the problems is guns, but when gangbangers have a mass shooting the left says it's poverty and education...
Education? Forget that... education today is the hip hop song that says to sling drugs and shoot people while you work on your rap.
Funny how last year everybody was upset about "Baby it's cold outside", but this year "WAP" BY Cardfi B is number one... Along with "Rockstar" by Rowdy Rich.
Right now nola is ranked in the top ten for murder per capita, and the Saints put Rapists names on their helmets... that's got to be great for tourism...
This post was edited on 10/8/20 at 1:45 pm
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