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re: Is there a secret to applying to USA Jobs?

Posted on 2/23/18 at 7:26 pm to
Posted by just1dawg
Virginia
Member since Dec 2011
1495 posts
Posted on 2/23/18 at 7:26 pm to
1. Be a veteran
2. Have a disability (with Schedule A letter)
3. Be a minority

You can improve your odds by having a hiring coach look over your resume. USAJobs is part of a broken, terrible hiring system--I highly recommend finding someone who can help you through the process.
Posted by Kirby59
Rocket City
Member since Nov 2016
1080 posts
Posted on 2/23/18 at 8:07 pm to
At Redstone Arsenal here in Huntsville, I have been part of the process of hiring someone from USAJOBS. First, make sure your resume includes all of the buzz and keywords in the announcement. Second, and probably most important, you have to answer the survey questions with every answer being a subject matter expert and you do that task everyday. I'm not saying you should lie, but anything scored less than a 5 out of 5 won't make it through the the first screening. If you make it through the first screening, your resume will typically get to the selecting official to review. Being a veteran and/or minority will put you at the head of the line.
Posted by DannyB
Bagram, Afghanistan
Member since Aug 2010
6141 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 1:10 am to
Its a scam....it is still the good ole boy network...you need to know somebody.

I am a defense contractor by the way.
Posted by CPT Tiger
My own personal Hell
Member since Oct 2009
1363 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 2:46 am to
So a few people have responded with good valuable insight.

1.) Learn how to write a federal resume
Bing page for Federal resume writing

You can search through these websites, check for books at the library and Louisiana Work Force Commission might have some material on it.


2.) Read the job posting and tailor your resume to fit it to include the keywords

3.) Education. A Bachelors degree with some experience is good but usually not enough. Enroll in a masters program. LSU-E has an online MBA you can complete in 9 months, even if you don't complete it show credits completed in your documents submitted because that usually can get you bumped up to the next GS Level once you reach a certain point.

Finally realize there are a lot of veterans and most have some level of security clearance and a disability letter awarding them 10-30 percent to increase their chances of getting hired.

Posted by Hammond Tiger Fan
Hammond
Member since Oct 2007
16419 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 6:59 am to
I work for a contractor to the federal government and a federal employee did share with me that there's a specific way you have to tailor your resume to get selected. If you leave any piece of information off, they will reject you. Also, make it seem like you're an expert at everything whenever they asks you those job related questions in the application. If you don't, you'll get rejected. I followed the advice and got referred for an interview the very next application I sent in.

You have to keep in mind too that depending on the position you might be competing with internal federal employees who are looking for a promotional opportunity. If you are, which happened in my case when I finally got referred, you will never get hired over the internal federal employee.
Posted by bigblake
Member since Jun 2011
2623 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 8:05 am to
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This post was edited on 2/26/18 at 9:53 pm
Posted by WONTONGO
Member since Oct 2007
4395 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 10:21 am to
I don't know about the Fed gov but a lot of big corporate HR departments use software now to scan resumes and pick out the qualified applicants. One way to get by this is to paste the job description and qualifications into your resume in tiny font and change the font color to white so no one sees it but the software. Boom - top of the stack.
Posted by BACONisMEATcandy
Member since Dec 2007
46745 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 10:24 am to
If you don’t rate yourself as the maximum on each question your resume will never get through
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 10:53 am to
When looking for jobs I am routinely referred for GS 13/14 positions and ZP 03/04 positions

From referral I can get a phone interview for 1 out of every 3 referrals.

There are tricks....
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 11:00 am to
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It’s a pain in the arse with my bs in Coastal Science.


Jesus....you might as well just not apply

Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 11:23 am to
I got 3 federal jobs.

Helps to know the skills they need.

As noted above, at least show some related experience with all keywords in job description.

I got one writing accounting programs for agriculture dept at a job fair.
Cold. Talked. Hired on the spot.

Got one at usps after two contracts as subcontractor for eds. Its not the case that you can't get in from contracting. It's a way for them to test your technical skills and interpersonal ways.

The eds project leader sat in my interview. Told me after that it was the best technical interview she ever saw.

Posted by White Bear
Homeless
Member since Jul 2014
17815 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 11:24 am to
Too many government hands as it is.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 11:26 am to
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Cold. Talked. Hired on the spot.


Liar

Why though, why lie about something so easily disprovable otto?
Posted by PNW
Nevada
Member since Mar 2014
6338 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 11:52 am to
I get referred to over half of my applications. It’s about wording... so far I have 4 offers on the table, but I’m likely staying where I am and doing another season in Glacier.

I don’t want to give my secrets away because you may take my job from me, but I will say that you need to replicate your questionnaire with showing you have the experience in your resume.

Also, a federal resume is different than a standard resume. You need to specify every minute detail of job responsibilities for every job you’ve had... if this means 3 pages of responsibilities for one single position, so be it.
This post was edited on 2/24/18 at 12:03 pm
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
21235 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 11:54 am to
quote:

Dude, philosophy with a minor in english is harder than you think.


Symbolic logic was one of the toughest classes I had in college, and I like math.
Posted by PNW
Nevada
Member since Mar 2014
6338 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 11:57 am to
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Are you a minority? If not then you are SOL


Right... because 95% of people in USFS and NPS are white....
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
28943 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 12:05 pm to
Have you tried including a link to Pornhub with your resume? You've got to make your resume stand out.
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
28943 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

One way to get by this is to paste the job description and qualifications into your resume in tiny font and change the font color to white so no one sees it but the software. Boom - top of the stack.



Nice.
Posted by prontopo
Hammond, LA.
Member since Sep 2006
1346 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 12:30 pm to
I didn’t read this whole thread so this may have been covered.
I had a guy that worked for me, state job. Got a call he had applied for federal job with equivalent duities.the guy was THE worst employee I had and I planned to dismiss him. The calling agency was made aware of this . Guess what happened? He was hired by feds quickly. You can guess the demographics. Others applied, great workers, and they never got a sniff! Again, you ca guess the demographics
Posted by PetroBabich
Donetsk Oblast
Member since Apr 2017
5174 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

FSA is pretty easy for entry level


Free Syrian Army? Thats not an organization I'd want an entry level position in.
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