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re: Is the Real Estate ploy "we have a cash offer" a bold face lie to make you offer more?

Posted on 1/21/20 at 2:28 pm to
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 2:28 pm to
Thankfully a good friend of mine is an agent and has done me well. Have come in below appraisal on every house I've bought along with closing costs being covered. I lucked into my current house and plan to be there for a long time now. There are good agents out there that take pride in what they do, but I know there are some schemers. I'd rather them handle all the bullshite that comes with buying/selling. I don't have time for that type of stupid shite.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 2:30 pm to
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What does cash mean in this situation anyway? Doesn't the seller get cash from the bank? WTH would the seller care if the buyer has cash on hand or if it was borrowed?



Because a cash buyer can forego the appraisal and inspection if they so choose.

A bank will renege on the deal if those two things (among others) come back negatively.

A cash buy might not even do an inspection. A cash buyer can do all the things a bank requires and still go through with the deal regardless. A financed buyer will lose their financing (for that property) if the inspection and/or appraisal doesn't check out.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

cash offer


Do people not just write a check for the value of the house?? Not sure why you're so perplexed by this...



















ETA: oh god, I am an idiot. Forgot you can just inherit it too.
This post was edited on 1/21/20 at 2:30 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 2:31 pm to
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In that case, I'd be pissed that the buyer's agent wasn't working in your best interest over an extra (I'm assuming) $50-200 in their own pocket.

I'd negative review blast them on every outlet available.



I trust they weren't the ones that came up with the supposed offer. I have no idea that there wasn't actually another offer. I just chose to not be bullied by it. Our agent was fine with that decision and very helpful with the several houses we liked, but thanks for yet another attempt at trying to "gotcha" me.

It's getting kinda sad at this point.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 2:33 pm to
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but thanks for yet another attempt at trying to "gotcha" me.

It's getting kinda sad at this point.

Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 2:34 pm to
Is this where you pretend you've never tried to take a reply I've made and make it look like I'm not sure of what I'm doing?
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33054 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 2:36 pm to
You and I have had our arguments in the past (and nothing that I can remember recently), but you are looking for something that simply isn't there itt.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 2:37 pm to
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but you are looking for something that simply isn't there itt.


I mean, it's right here where you say I should be blasting my agent for not having my best interest based on one sentence.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33054 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 2:43 pm to
I really wasn't...

In a thread about shady realtors, you post:

quote:

When we put the offer on our current house, amazingly someone else supposedly was submitting their best offer that day. The realtor suggested we bump our offer, 


I asked a a direct question which you answered.

My reply was simply what my reaction would be to a shady buyers agent that was trying to bump my offer to improve their commission. It had nothing to do with you other than you providing the scenario...

You must need a nap or something.
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 2:48 pm to
all offers are "cash to seller".
in 99% of cases though the cash is coming from a bank

it makes no difference whatsoever to the seller
Posted by CptRusty
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 2:50 pm to
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Be willing to walk away.


This is the single most powerful tool the buyer has in their arsenal.

If you are truly willing to walk away if the deal doesn't line up, then you win. Every time.

Just went through this whole song and dance and will be closing on a new home at the end of the month. My wife was emotionally invested and she was damn near losing her mind.
Posted by Beauw
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 2:58 pm to
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My wife was emotionally invested


This is why I try to involve my wife as little as possible when negotiating for houses or cars.....
Posted by WildManGoose
Member since Nov 2005
4613 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

tell them your pre-approved lender pays in cash too


Exactly. It's not like the lender is paying in installments.
Posted by CptRusty
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Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

This is why I try to involve my wife as little as possible when negotiating for houses or cars.....


wise man.

The last car I bought she had to leave the room, then texted me from outside to "stop being mean to the salesperson"
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
18965 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 3:02 pm to
quote:

Most people are smart enough to get pre approved


Okay? The pre approval is for you, not the property you are buying.

If the loan company wants an appraisal and finds the property to be worth less the deal can fall through there
Posted by Beauw
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 3:05 pm to
Man, I don't mean to sound sexist but it is like you said, they decide with emotion versus logic.
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
6042 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

all offers are "cash to seller".
in 99% of cases though the cash is coming from a bank

it makes no difference whatsoever to the seller




That's not correct. If the seller has made an offer on another house and the sale is "contingent" on the sale of their current home, then you can bet your last dollar it matters. A cash offer is faster...usually. The seller of the future home has a time limit placed upon the contingent contract. They're not holding on forever.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

Is the Real Estate ploy "we have a cash offer" a bold face lie to make you offer more?



I sold my house to a full price "cash offer"

Was pretty impressive and depressing to watch a dude cut a check for the most expensive thing I've ever owned.
Posted by Jp1LSU
Fiji
Member since Oct 2005
2542 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

I say yes. They can say this, and offer ZERO proof. They can tell you ANYTHING about so-said "other offers" and not have to prove squat to you in print. Snakes.


Depends on the state. I just bought properties in Colorado and the seller had to produce the competing offer to meet the terms of our escalation clause. In Florida they do not have to do that.
This post was edited on 1/21/20 at 3:32 pm
Posted by Shankopotomus
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Member since Feb 2009
21087 posts
Posted on 1/21/20 at 3:54 pm to
could be

it's a gamble if the agent is lying
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