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re: Is Louisiana part of the Deep South?

Posted on 10/22/25 at 7:32 pm to
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 7:32 pm to
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if they are French they are French and that’s a pretty different heritage than the vast majority of the “Deep South”, and has nothing to do with Haiti

The biggest single influx of French people into South Louisiana and New Orleans in particular came from emigres from Saint Domingue—people that had been there for a couple generations and left during the Haitian Revolution. Lots of mixed blood there with the black and mixed Haitians. Many of them did not see themselves as French by that point. It was not continental French culture that they brought with them was my point.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 7:54 pm to
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My whole life i've heard "bruh north of I-10 aint cajun."
Ville Platte area isn't?
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3472 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 9:21 pm to
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My whole life i've heard "bruh north of I-10 aint cajun."


Opelousas? Mamou? Eunice? Basile? Ville Platte?

Those are some of the most Cajuny places and people I've ever been around...

But that's just being picky...
Posted by lsut2005
Northshore
Member since Jul 2009
2680 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 9:45 pm to
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St. Tammany


Absolutely part of the catholic/south LA region. It is 67% catholic… plus has always had extremely strong ties to Nola.
This post was edited on 10/22/25 at 9:48 pm
Posted by cornerstore
Member since Jul 2024
1695 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:02 pm to
Top half of Louisiana is Deep South. Bottom half is its own planet
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 10/23/25 at 2:12 am to
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That’s not true. The OG cajuns went down to Louisiana after being expelled from Canada, some even ended up in the states between (Carolina?) I think

The creoles are the people from the French colonies. They are a separate group from Cajuns, historically.


I couldn't answer this without finding myself writing a book.

shortest answer:

Acadians = those actual French Canadian refugees. There are a certain families on record who can claim that identity (and if you know them, boy do they)

Creoles = originally meant French and Spanish (Criollo) settlers in colonies, but is what (English and Protestant) Americans took to calling anybody not like them in Louisiana when they poured in after the Louisiana Purchase

Cajun = well... Some Acadians "became" Cajuns, but not all Cajuns are Acadians, though all Cajuns are Creoles and some Creoles are Cajuns... those communities (especially the fishing/hunting/trapping communities in the swamps and marshes or on the gulf coast) tended to welcome whoever showed up, and those newcomers assimilated into the culture and language (and the Catholicism)... it's a term that has been fairly recently retro-actively applied to Rural French-speaking Louisianans (who were previously called Creoles)...

here's the first known usage, by a Union officer who encountered people in the Louisiana swamps who had no interest in fighting them on behalf of the Confederacy:

I will try and tell what a Cajun is. He is a half-savage creature, of mixed French and Indian blood, lives in swamps and subsists by cultivating small patches of corn and sweet potatoes. The wants of the Cajun are few, and his habits are simple... I can not say that we were abused by the Cajuns.

It seems he misunderstood a French accent saying "Acadians" for "Cajuns"...

After that, it became an ethnic/class slur, and in the post-Civil War era French-speaking Louisiana people outside of New Orleans were discriminated against, mistreated and abused pretty badly.

Then they began to reassert their pride in their heritage and identity...

But when they claimed to be "Creoles" the response was "so, you're black!"

Which depends on individual family histories, but made them want another term/identity to differentiate themselves...

So they reclaimed "Cajun!" ("THAT'S OUR WORD, NOW!!!")

I think Coonass has died out, though...

and Cajun is an ethnicity... from the 1700s there were Germans who adopted French when they arrived here (The German Coast in Acadiana.. know a Cajun Matherne or Schexnayder or Folse or Zeringue?)... I've known some Italian Cajuns whose families spoke French, not Italian, though their cooking was both and damned good... Black Cajuns invented Zydeco by trying to play R&B on Cajun folk music instruments,,, the washboard, violin, and the accordions the Germans introduced... if you wanted to be part of the community, they were glad to have you is what it comes down to...

Historic New Orleans Collection: What’s the Difference Between Cajun and Creole—Or Is There One?
The answers are tied up in race, class, language, and, of course, history.
This post was edited on 10/23/25 at 2:30 am
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37594 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 4:42 am to
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St. Tammany and Baton Rouge were part of the Republic of West Florida and not a part of French Louisiana

Well it was originally French.
Then British.
Then Spanish.
Then American.
Posted by turnpiketiger
Member since May 2020
11995 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 6:54 am to
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The majority of Louisiana residents live in the New Orleans, st Tammany, Lafayette, and Baton Rouge metro areas


Correct. More than half of the BR metro population isn’t Cajun or Yat though.

Factor that in along with the entire 318 and SWLA then throw in the Florida parishes and you have majority Deep South.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60687 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 8:05 am to
Louisiana Arkansas and Mississippi are an off shoot, the derp south

But Arky is improving and Mississippi is learning to read. I hope we aren’t left solo.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
58954 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 8:13 am to
You can’t be Deep South and be heavily catholic. Sorry, but you’re simply wrong
Posted by lsuchip30
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2007
482 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 8:18 am to
I would definitely categorize Louisiana as part of the deep south.
Posted by hansenthered1
Dixie
Member since Nov 2023
2289 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 8:52 am to
It's all Dixie to me!



The deep south is a geographical term, not a cultural one. The culture of East TX through the northern part of LA and across the bulk of MS and AL is different than that of the culture of all of those states along the Gulf. MS Gulf Coast Counties are more like LA than they are the rest of the state, and this is true into Mobile, AL.

TX has always been more western, but again the eastern part, Dallas east, seems more "southern."

This post was edited on 10/23/25 at 8:55 am
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
18774 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 8:55 am to
Yes but we are a different culture.
We are the Dirty South
Posted by JawjaTigah
On the Bandwagon
Member since Sep 2003
22898 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 9:16 am to
LA is unlike the true Deep South except for geographic location.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
4474 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 9:29 am to
quote:

The deep south is a geographical term, not a cultural one



strongly disagree
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
18965 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 9:30 am to
quote:

Southern Louisiana is its own thing, central and northern Louisiana are definitely Deep South culturally. The panhandle of Florida is also Deep South culturally.


This.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36368 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 11:32 am to
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The biggest single influx of French people into South Louisiana and New Orleans in particular came from emigres from Saint Domingue—people that had been there for a couple generations and left during the Haitian Revolution. Lots of mixed blood there with the black and mixed Haitians. Many of them did not see themselves as French by that point. It was not continental French culture that they brought with them was my point.

Even if that’s true, (not going to argue one way or another) that does not change the fact that there is a significant French/Catholic influence on the culture of South Louisiana.
Posted by justaniceguy
Member since Sep 2020
6668 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 3:16 pm to
Cajuns were the descendants of Acadians and they ended up living in southwest Louisiana, they were rural people, there might have even been other French living around them. But before the civil war the Spanish, Germans, and other French did not intermarry with them.

The creoles were more based around NOLA and southeastern Louisiana, descendants of French colonial from Guadeloupe and the other colonies. They were wealthier. They looked down on the Cajuns.

I have no idea how creoles became all black. That happened in the past 100 years.
Posted by justaniceguy
Member since Sep 2020
6668 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 3:17 pm to
I will also mention that some Cajuns (Acadians) and creoles (French colonists) ended up in other southern states besides Louisiana: some around North Carolina and not sure where else.

Also, the ones directly from France were also called Creole, as opposed to Cajun.
Posted by justaniceguy
Member since Sep 2020
6668 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 3:18 pm to
The saints flag is literally an old French monarchy flag.
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