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re: Is John Oliver currently the best journalist in America?

Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:25 pm to
Posted by ZekeTheTeke
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:25 pm to
Don't know what's the reason for all the downvotes, but I've been trying to turn everyone I know on to Oliver for the past 6 months. Like it was said before, he really breaks down issues that aren't flashy. He has a very persuasive way of making me give a shite about the infrastructure in this country and the fact that the fine/ticketing systems in local government is raping its citizens. He does that by actually caring about the issues more than most Americans. This is a guy who doesn't take our country for granted and doesn't want his viewers to either.

Have an upvote sir.
Posted by FCP
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:26 pm to
John Oliver is fricking brilliant. Left of center for sure, but so what? It helps that he's commercial free and uninterrupted, but he was already good back in the old days on The Daily Show. I just discovered his HBO show a couple of months ago, and I spent an enjoyable weekend watching Season 1.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:32 pm to
I'm sure he's a little biased just like everyone other human. That's part of being a human. He's intelligent though and raises many good points.
Posted by 3deadtrolls
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:33 pm to
Not really a fan of the Daily Show, but Oliver's HBO show is great.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:35 pm to
quote:

I'm sure he's a little biased just like everyone other human. That's part of being a human. He's intelligent though and raises many good points.



Yeah, there are some issues I've disagreed with him, but I have to give him credit that he really does his homework and that I can't disagree with his basic facts. I just occasionally disagree how to respond to these facts.
This post was edited on 7/23/15 at 8:36 pm
Posted by JBeam
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:37 pm to
I don't consider John Oliver a journalist. But his show opens the scabs on many issues that national media [MSNBC,CNN & FOXN] will not touch. I've enjoyed his series over the past year.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:55 pm to
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especially since he didn't grow up in this country and can't vote.


And his country does the whole how does the vote break down mirror the representative makeup thing so so much better than ours.

Our ingrained two parties win everyone else loses thing is insane.
This post was edited on 7/23/15 at 8:56 pm
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:55 pm to
No. He thinks people that dont want gun control are backwards dumbasses
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:58 pm to
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what's the reason for all the downvotes,


80% haven't ever seen the show and are just stupid.

19% are OT bad assessment

1% actually don't like him.
Posted by TheWalrus
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 9:00 pm to
I'm a big fan of his, but that piece on trans people was far from unbiased.
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15979 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 9:16 pm to
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and without much poltical bias.
I'm a huge fan but anytime there is a comedian that talks about politics you can guarantee that each party is going to say that he only targets "them"
This post was edited on 7/23/15 at 9:19 pm
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
39284 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 9:21 pm to
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I don't consider John Oliver a journalist.



With the state of our media I consider him and Jon Stewart a new form of journalism. With the Daily Show I am sure they didn't intend for it to be a legitimate power in the news but our media caused that. It is hard not to consider them journalism when you compare them to what we have now.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 9:22 pm to
I didn't say no bias.

I said not much. And far less than any other "news" show.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 9:24 pm to
Last Week Tonight beats the ever living shite out The Daily Show.

I appreciate the stepping stone and he wouldn't be here without that start, neither would a plethora of other people and shows, but Last Week Tonight is on a different field than Daily Show.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
39284 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 9:27 pm to
Of course it is. It benefits from having a working model already in place as well as less censorship.
Posted by tigerbait2010
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Member since May 2006
33864 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 9:29 pm to
I think it's John Stossel, not even close either



eta: I do enjoy John Oliver without question. I just think Oliver is the best satirical journalist. Other than maternity leave I've agreed with him on pretty much everything
This post was edited on 7/23/15 at 9:33 pm
Posted by HammerheadLincoln
The farther west the farther out
Member since May 2015
5809 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 9:39 pm to
He's pretty good
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
24864 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 9:45 pm to
His investigative skills are he best IMO. I like him because While I don't always agree with him, I learn about the topic and can generally have a more informed opinion. I think he's funny as shite too.
Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
35828 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 10:01 pm to
His piece on the NCAA was so terribly awful and uninformed and his arguments were beyond lazy.

He's too liberal to be the best because in the end it always up coming through in his rants.
Posted by SirWinston
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 10:10 pm to
He's horrible - absolutely horrible

Watch VICE or bill maher - it's not even close
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