re: Is it impossible to travel to another solar system?

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ut when you have a quarillion solar systems, it's more than possible that there are millions if not billions of inhabited planets.

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It all really is quite mind bobbling. Its actually hard to fathom the distance to the nearest star outside our own solar system.

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It seems like the solution has to involve bending spacetime, if there is a solution at all. We are pretty sure that we can't break the "laws" as we know them. Speed = distance / time, right? If we can't increase the speed, then we have to change the distance or the time.

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I don't know if quantum entanglement has been mentioned yet in the thread, but at the very least that should be usable for data communication, if not outright "beam me up Scotty" Star Trek transporter like technology. You would likely need to traverse the distance in the first place to set up the transporter on both ends, possibly making it a moot point for this argument, and there is also the prospect of essentially destroying the original to have a replica come out the other end, but it is a potential way we could traverse great distances in the blink of an eye in the future.

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In 1993 an international group of six scientists, including IBM Fellow Charles H. Bennett, confirmed the intuitions of the majority of science fiction writers by showing that perfect teleportation is indeed possible in principle, but only if the original is destroyed. In subsequent years, other scientists have demonstrated teleportation experimentally in a variety of systems, including single photons, coherent light fields, nuclear spins, and trapped ions. Teleportation promises to be quite useful as an information processing primitive, facilitating long range quantum communication (perhaps unltimately leading to a "quantum internet"), and making it much easier to build a working quantum computer. But science fiction fans will be disappointed to learn that no one expects to be able to teleport people or other macroscopic objects in the foreseeable future, for a variety of engineering reasons, even though it would not violate any fundamental law to do so.

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Go back and check out one of my first posts in this thread about what a number of scientists have theorized would be the results of trying to bend space time as a means of travel. That's why I've been saying space time will never be a viable method of travel. It's not a simple matter of it being just impossible, it's also matter of what doing would actually result in.

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If we don't know how we would accomplish it or if it's even possible, how do you know what it would result in?

Like someone else said, it's possible that wormholes already exist all over the universe and it's just a matter of finding and exploiting them.

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If we don't know how we would accomplish it or if it's even possible, how do you know what it would result in?

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i just posted the theories of people who know far more about any of this than any of us in this thread. And the things they said were not good concerning bending space time.

To the loser who has diligently down-voted every single one of my posts in this thread over the span of the last 5 hours, usually within seconds of me posting it, I must say I both salute your dedication (or as some would call it obsession)and also pity you for your lack of anything better in your life than to sit there for 5 hours waiting on my next post so you can click that little red arrow.

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i just posted the theories of people who know far more about any of this than any of us in this thread. And the things they said were not good concerning bending space time.

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Maybe they're just looking in the wrong place with a very narrow perspective.

Give them 17 million years.
We'll see what they can come up with.

Someone with programming skills may have written a bot to downvote you. haha.

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Like I said earlier, the fundamental acceptance that Relativity is "completely" right may be flawed.

I find it funny that "couch" scientists think they have it all figured out and accept the current paradigm as indisputable truth when Einstein even admitted that he didn't fully understand Relativity.

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As soon as it's proven the theory of relativity is wrong, I'll cast it aside.

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Longitudinal waves have been experimentally shown to travel at ~158% of C "the speed of light".

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You're talking waves, not normal objects with mass. Basically apples and oranges in this instance. But for the sake of the debate... link?

I love discussions like these in this thread, but sadly, most of it is just pure theory and unprovable. Just because something could work in theory doesn't mean it will ever be feasible.

However, that being said, who knows what we will discover in the centuries to come...several thousand years from now, we may have an entirely new way of looking at things that we never even knew existed. That's pretty cool to think about.

I always say this in threads like these, but one thing that sort of limits us and holds us back as a species is our restrictions and experiences of Earth. Everything we know is based on something that is contained within the scope of what we know and believe to be true. Who's to say that a hundred years from now we won't discover some new things, on numerous levels (molecular, physical, etc...however you want to call it) that will open our eyes to a completely outside-of-the-box way of thinking that will make impossible things improbable, or even achievable..?


Also, randomly:

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Korkstand

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I was at a friend's house the other night and did a cork stand based on remembering your avatar. Only took me about six or seven tries.

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I was at a friend's house the other night and did a cork stand based on remembering your avatar. Only took me about six or seven tries.

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The spacetime in the area has to be bent just right for it to work.