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re: Is it controversial to say that diversity is only good for minorities?

Posted on 10/18/19 at 11:49 am to
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 11:49 am to
It's not a zero sum game.

It's not 'us' against 'them' and of you think in those terms the only person being hurt is yourself.



Muh Tyranny of the majority
Posted by frankthetank
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 11:51 am to
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It's not a zero sum game.

It's not 'us' against 'them' and of you think in those terms the only person being hurt is yourself.


No one has said us against them. But forced diversity for the sake of diversity leads to inefficient outcomes.
Posted by airlinehwypanhandler
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 11:52 am to
I saw a cartoon that pretty much got it spot on

It was a side by side cartoon of a man traveling the world and visiting different cultures, vs. the man having different cultures forced on him where he currently lives

If anyone can find it and post it that would be great because I can't find it anywhere

Edit: Found it

This post was edited on 10/18/19 at 11:57 am
Posted by jsquardjj
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 11:54 am to
I think experiencing and appreciating different culture is huge for learning and growth.

Let’s say you had a bunch of rich, well raised, black/white/Asian/Hispanics all in a school together. It would probably be great for all involved.

I think the problem you are pointing out is when diversity and different economic classes are forced to mix. In that case, yes, I agree that it only benefits some.
Posted by blackinthesaddle
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 11:54 am to
Diversity is strength. The more types of people inside your tent, the fewer there are trying to tear the tent down. We got a big tent, let's all celebrate that humanity has made it this far and stop living like cavemen. Us vs them only benefits a select few and leads down a path of brutality and bodies.

Also, you don't understand averages.
Posted by Barrister
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 11:55 am to
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All of this "better together" and "diversity makes us stronger" push is just bs. I agree that diversity can be a good thing, but only when it's naturally done. Similar to socialism, diversity for the sake of diversity only helps minorities and can actually hurt the group overall.

You're not raising everyone up. You're bringing some down to make a worse overall average.


Y'know, I could not disagree more. From personal experience I can tell you that I have been placed in settings that did not develop organically wherein I was exposed to other people, other races, other sexual orientations, and other ethnic backgrounds and each and every time my views, perceptions and preconcieved stereotypes changed in a way that made me a better person.

What are you so afraid of?
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 11:55 am to
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Diversity is great for kids. The world is diverse. Why not shed light on that early on?
because “diversity” treats all brown and black people as special and unique and good while all “white” people are monolithic and bad.

And don’t get me started on “Asian”.
You better be brown Asian to get any victim points. They don’t want white or yellow Asians in their club.
It’s all a bunch of horseshite
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 11:55 am to
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The more types of people inside your tent, the fewer there are trying to tear the tent down.


But what happens when the people you bring in the tent want to still tear the tent down, or kick you out of the tent and take it for their own?

Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 11:56 am to
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But forced diversity for the sake of diversity leads to inefficient outcomes.
agree
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 11:57 am to
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I think experiencing and appreciating different culture is huge for learning and growth. Let’s say you had a bunch of rich, well raised, black/white/Asian/Hispanics all in a school together. It would probably be great for all involved. I think the problem you are pointing out is when diversity and different economic classes are forced to mix. In that case, yes, I agree that it only benefits some.



Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 11:57 am to
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They don’t want white or yellow Asians in their club.


Which is why these groups are now referred to as "white adjacent" to distinguish good asian from bad (too successful) asian.

Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 12:00 pm to
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Which is why these groups are now referred to as "white adjacent" to distinguish good asian from bad (too successful) asian.



It’s like when if you are black and start to think for yourself or question the progressive narrative they’ll call you an Uncle Tom or a House ******
Posted by Dead End
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 12:00 pm to
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Cool. This thread again.



Reeeeeeee
Posted by airlinehwypanhandler
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 12:00 pm to
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I think the problem you are pointing out is when diversity and different economic classes are forced to mix. In that case, yes, I agree that it only benefits some.



Forced diversity creates more racists, not less, as illustrated in the cartoon I posted above.

It comes down to free will vs. forcing. When people are free to explore diverse cultures and societies, that's good. When people are forced to experience them, it creates tension.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 12:04 pm to
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It’s like when if you are black and start to think for yourself or question the progressive narrative they’ll call you an Uncle Tom or a House ******

There is no group more ruthless than blacks against other blacks that step out of line with regard to politics.
Posted by MickeyLikesDags21
Member since Apr 2019
6641 posts
Posted on 10/18/19 at 12:10 pm to
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Whites


I prefer "absence of color". I'd appreciate if you respect my wishes going forward. Thanks.
This post was edited on 10/18/19 at 12:12 pm
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 12:30 pm to
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Diversity really only benefits those at the lower levels of the socio economic scale.


It doesn’t benefit poor whites or Asians much
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 12:34 pm to
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because “diversity” treats all brown and black people as special and unique and good while all “white” people are monolithic and bad.

White people diversifying a non white area = colonization

Non white people diversifying a white area= progress
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 12:34 pm to
Would you rather be Canada or Europe? Less diverse than the US.
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 12:34 pm to
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It doesn’t benefit poor whites or Asians much


Because they're not minorities.

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