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re: Is it a dick move to fill your lot/ building pad much higher than neighbors house?
Posted on 5/22/24 at 1:31 pm to The Mick
Posted on 5/22/24 at 1:31 pm to The Mick
I worked in building inspection and permits when I was in college. There were family members who became sworn enemies because of this. A family member owned a lot on side of a family member, when family member decided to build, his house was much higher and all it took was a strong evening shower to flood part of the other family member's house.
All the permits and inspections were done before me and the building inspector started working there. The woman who lived in the house already built cussed me, the building inspector and the parish president out because there was absolutely nothing that could be done about it.
The inspector asked her if she didn't notice how elevated they were before they started building.. She went nuts... and in the mean time says that she did and asked them about it and was told she had nothing to worry about.
I wouldn't expect to make friends because of it, but if there is nothing that says you can't do it.. I wouldn't blame you for decreasing your chances of getting flooded.
All the permits and inspections were done before me and the building inspector started working there. The woman who lived in the house already built cussed me, the building inspector and the parish president out because there was absolutely nothing that could be done about it.
The inspector asked her if she didn't notice how elevated they were before they started building.. She went nuts... and in the mean time says that she did and asked them about it and was told she had nothing to worry about.
I wouldn't expect to make friends because of it, but if there is nothing that says you can't do it.. I wouldn't blame you for decreasing your chances of getting flooded.
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 1:32 pm to Boudreaux35
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Anyone who has any general knowledge of how drainage works can see that it is nothing but a money grab. You can't increase tax revenue without more development....frick anyone who was there before.
Your post is correct, but I would say it this way...we can't increase revenue to pay for the cost of maintaining old infrastructure without getting revenue from new development. That said in many communities they would probably take a trade-off of increasing millages dedicated to drainage over increasing density...or maybe not.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 1:42 pm to TDsngumbo
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Ascension believes a 3’ pad causes 2016 type flooding so they limit them at 2.99’ high. At 2.99’ high, they dry up the rain before it falls by somehow taking up less footprint.
You have to set a limit somewhere.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 1:47 pm to The Mick
Nah, not if you are building to the new flood elevations. Insurance at your neighbors height might be 3X what your elevated house is. I'd much rather tall house pad than stilts.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 2:22 pm to The Mick
If you want to chance the floods then build low. If you want to make sure your house doesn't flood build higher. I went a foot higher than my neighbors but I put in a drop ledge so it looked the same as the others but I'm much higher than everyone else. They wish they could have build higher, I did.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 2:49 pm to Trauma14
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You have to set a limit somewhere.
I realize that but I’ve always found it amusing that they think a flood significant enough to not flow over a 3’ high pad is somehow going to be less impactful than not being able to flow over a 2.5’ pad. A flood is a flood. In my opinion, a more impactful flood control/prevention strategy would be to actually clean out all ditches and canals/waterways. Let the water find its natural home into the Amite and other waterways instead of backing up due to clogged drainage canals/ditches, resulting in flash flooding. They’re trying to blame flooding on subdivision development when in reality subdivision development is contributing to FLASH flooding because of clogged drainage outlets. A flood caused by overflowing rivers isn’t going to be impacted by 3’ high house pads and FLASH flooding isn’t going to result in 3’ deep water over a large spread out area like river flooding would. The two just don’t seem like they’re connected in my amateur opinion. Maybe I’m just retarded.
This post was edited on 5/22/24 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 5/22/24 at 3:25 pm to The Mick
You can do whatever you want provided that you control the water shed on your property... otherwise they can sue you and win.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 3:54 pm to TheEnglishman
I'm significantly higher than my neighbors. That is why I put multiple catch basins with 6" PVC drains and ran them back towards the street and storm gutters during construction. No need to piss off the neighbors and cause any damage.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:05 pm to TheEnglishman
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:16 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Dick move? Maybe. But if the parish signs off on the plans and your builder follows said approved plans then you’re good.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:20 pm to TDsngumbo
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Ascension believes a 3’ pad causes 2016 type flooding so they limit them at 2.99’ high. At 2.99’ high, they dry up the rain before it falls by somehow taking up less footprint
Can provide information where it says that in the LDC
Posted on 5/23/24 at 7:20 am to Skeeterzx190
Sounds like he wasn't planning on having a neighbor, or didn't have the foresight. He designed his drainage incorrectly from the start.
Posted on 5/23/24 at 7:24 am to JohnnyKilroy
quote:meh, that subjective
Dick move? Maybe. But if the parish signs off on the plans and your builder follows said approved plans then you’re good.
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Posted on 5/23/24 at 7:52 am to The Mick
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Is it a dick move to fill your lot/ building pad much higher than neighbors house?
What's the difference between that and just building a taller house than your neighbor(s)?
Unless you completely ignore drainage, the only reason building like that would be a dick move would be if you were only building that way to be a dick.
Posted on 5/23/24 at 7:56 am to The Mick
as somebody who lives in an older house between two newer builds, its a dick move
realistically, you can do what you want
realistically, you can do what you want
Posted on 5/23/24 at 11:15 am to TDsngumbo
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I realize that but I’ve always found it amusing that they think a flood significant enough to not flow over a 3’ high pad is somehow going to be less impactful than not being able to flow over a 2.5’ pad. A flood is a flood. In my opinion, a more impactful flood control/prevention strategy would be to actually clean out all ditches and canals/waterways. Let the water find its natural home into the Amite and other waterways instead of backing up due to clogged drainage canals/ditches, resulting in flash flooding. They’re trying to blame flooding on subdivision development when in reality subdivision development is contributing to FLASH flooding because of clogged drainage outlets. A flood caused by overflowing rivers isn’t going to be impacted by 3’ high house pads and FLASH flooding isn’t going to result in 3’ deep water over a large spread out area like river flooding would. The two just don’t seem like they’re connected in my amateur opinion. Maybe I’m just retarded.
That's a lot of jibber jabber and I understand where you are coming from in regards to what feels like arbitrary numbers. Civil designs take into account the likelihood of flood events using historical mapping of 100 year and 500 year flood planes. This is how they design culvert sizes, structure elevations, levee heights, etc...
That said, engineers of neighborhood developments and city planners tend to ignore some of these rules less than industrial parks and commercial properties. And maintenance of the infrastructure is critical like you mention, but code in areas for elevations are not set arbitrarily.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:33 am to MrJimBeam
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You can’t just build at any height you want
This is bullshite. If it’s up on piers, you can build it as high as you fricking want.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:44 am to Tvilletiger
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It may be a dick move but it is the right move. Here in Florida there is a very clear law that you cannot change the flow of water based on something that you build that would change the flow of water from your neighbors property.
Take a 30 minute ride south to palm coast. They have the worst flood/water management I've ever seen in 25 years building in ne florida. And I'm talking west of the intercoastal
Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:47 am to The Mick
Its your property.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:58 am to The Mick
If your lot is developed and graded so that all your runoff dumps around your neighbors house, it is 100% a selfish, dick move, even if it gets through permitting.
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