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re: Is Hillar Moore Tough on DUI Offenders?

Posted on 2/19/22 at 10:01 am to
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
16703 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 10:01 am to
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How does anyone drive drunk these days? It’s incredibly easy to get a ride.


I know it’s hard to believe, but alcohol impairs decision making.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35176 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 10:03 am to
The dirty little secret I’ve noticed quite prevalently is that probably 9 times out of 10, a public defender can and does net the same result as the 5 to 10 k privately retained attorney. But hey, if it makes folks feel better, I’m all for it.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31758 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 10:14 am to
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The dirty little secret I’ve noticed quite prevalently is that probably 9 times out of 10, a public defender can and does net the same result as the 5 to 10 k privately retained attorney. But hey, if it makes folks feel better, I’m all for it.


Heavily jurisdiction specific. And hell, section/division specific within jurisdictions.

Good to great private criminal defense attorneys are worth their weight in gold if the case is complicated or otherwise has something unique about it, if there is going to be significant mitigation choreography, or if the client and/or their family need significant handholding. In short, more than anything else, they're being paid for their time.

A decent or better public defender will know the law and (usually) will have good enough relationships with the prosecutors and judges (again, jurisdiction specific) to get you through cases that don't involve significant time investment, which they simply don't have to give.

Mediocre to bad private criminal defense attorneys should be avoided, full stop. They won't know the law any better than the public defenders, they likely won't have better relationships with the prosecutor/judge, and they won't give you any more time than you can wring out of them. Hell, at least your public defender will always make your court dates, which is no guarantee in this tier of private attorneys.
Posted by Demshoes
Up in here
Member since Aug 2015
10689 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 10:18 am to
Tell your friend to look up the revised statute on punitive damages. Only a few circumstances where they apply in Louisiana and drunk driving causing injury is one. Please tell him to get a good attorney.
Posted by MrFahrenheitDontLie
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
272 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 10:26 am to
0.2 BAC automatically places you ib the 3rd quadrant of punishment.
Posted by MrFahrenheitDontLie
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
272 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 10:29 am to
Subject B would still have the DUI on his driving record.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
31838 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 10:33 am to
If you’re in real deep shite, I strongly recommend Carson Marcantel or his partner, Delatte.

Uh, speaking from a friends experience. Yeah, a friend.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31758 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 10:50 am to
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If you’re in real deep shite, I strongly recommend Carson Marcantel or his partner, Delatte.

Uh, speaking from a friends experience. Yeah, a friend.


Carson is now a judge in Baton Rouge city court, so you’ll probably have to scratch him off of your list, at least for now

A great attorney and a genuinely great guy, though.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
28026 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 11:01 am to
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Subject B would still have the DUI on his driving record.


NOPE - The point of this is that you don't need a lawyer to get 894.

I dated a girl who worked in the Clerk Of Court in a Parish in Louisiana, this is what she always told people she knew to do.

If you meet all conditions of the 894 it will not go on your record
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31758 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 11:12 am to
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NOPE - The point of this is that you don't need a lawyer to get 894.


This is true.

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I dated a girl who worked in the Clerk Of Court in a Parish in Louisiana, this is what she always told people she knew to do.


She probably should stop giving legal advice, because...

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If you meet all conditions of the 894 it will not go on your record


This isn't really true. While LA CCrP Art 894 does create a legal fiction of a "dismissal" and allows for a conviction to be expunged from their record, it can still be used as the predicate for an enhancement if you are later arrested for DWI and it will still show up in some record pulls depending on the agency. This is all because in order to have your 894 "dismissal" granted, you have to plead guilty and go on probation, and if you finish your probation satisfactorily, you can then get a retroactive "dismissal". But again, literally anyone who pulls the case record can see the guilty plea. And again, it can be used as a predicate for a DWI 2nd, etc. It's not a true dismissal.
Posted by The People
LSU Alumni
Member since Aug 2008
4401 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 11:59 am to
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Delatte.


Easily my favorite criminal defense lawyer to oppose in open court.

Motion hearings, when I was was sitting on a mountain of rock solid evidence, were comical. I will give him props for his theatrics, I am sure they intimidate and confuse the novice.

My contacts with Highway Patrol despise the guy for his tactics, I always thought they were fair game.
This post was edited on 2/19/22 at 12:17 pm
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3770 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 1:20 pm to
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Easily my favorite criminal defense lawyer to oppose in open court. Motion hearings, when I was was sitting on a mountain of rock solid evidence, were comical. I will give him props for his theatrics, I am sure they intimidate and confuse the novice. My contacts with Highway Patrol despise the guy for his tactics, I always thought they were fair game.


Considering cops can(and readily do) lie to suspects(potentially you and I) to gain advantage, they are the last ones who should be complaining about tactics.
This post was edited on 2/19/22 at 1:21 pm
Posted by geauxjuice
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Member since Jan 2007
4343 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 1:35 pm to
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my old coworkwer claimed young hillar hit him while drunk as shite and his dad came and did the talking

i know he was trash at baseball
Posted by Turf Taint
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2021
6010 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 1:47 pm to
One hurt or dead victim and your freedom and financials are gone, not to mention mental stress for all and guilt, as well as your reputation.

Uber

My treat
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
31838 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 1:59 pm to
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Carson is now a judge in Baton Rouge city court, so you’ll probably have to scratch him off of your list, at lea



He won? I saw a sign that he was running for judge but never heard the results. I don’t live in LA anymore and hopefully I’ll never need him again anyway.

I agree, he is a great guy too. He did more for ‘my friend’ than he had to. Very genuine guy that cares about people. Baton Rouge has a good judge in him.
This post was edited on 2/19/22 at 6:26 pm
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22292 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 2:31 pm to
You don’t see about DWI checkpoints being posted anymore. I don’t believe BRPD does them anymore.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
59048 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 2:33 pm to
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You don’t see about DWI checkpoints being posted anymore. I don’t believe BRPD does them anymore.

Thankfully

(jk)
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31758 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 2:36 pm to
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He won? I saw a sign that he was running for judge but never heard the results. I don’t live in LA anymore and hopefully I’ll never need him again anyway.

I agree, he is great guy too. He did more for ‘my friend’ than he had to. Very genuine guy that cares about people. Baton Rouge had a good judge in him.


Yep yep. Was sworn in right at the beginning of January.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31758 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 2:37 pm to
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You don’t see about DWI checkpoints being posted anymore. I don’t believe BRPD does them anymore.


They were primarily driven by federal grants (which then turned into a massive overtime slush fund). I think the grants ended some time ago, so they aren't as lucrative as they used to be.
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